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Old 02-07-2007, 06:26 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Now darn it, Preacher!!! You went and told on yourself afterall... I have no problem telling my story, It only shows how great He really is.

I wish you knew just how much the wonderful grace and mercy of God would keep you now. Instead you are keeping yourself by the strongarm of manmade religion.
What makes your religion anyless man made than mine?

St. Augustine said it best: Love, and do what you please.
Dont get me started on St Augustine

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Old 02-07-2007, 07:18 PM   #22 (permalink)
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This is true and the key word is "in general". Fatherless girls don't fall in this category because they lack the basics that come naturally to others.
Hogwash. My mom was fatherless from age 2, raised by her mom, grandparents and aunt, and she and my dad were married 54 years, until she died last August.

My point was that love does not need to come from a particular parent. Love does have to come from someone around the person. And guess what? Each one of us is around the person. We, who are blessed to know love, to know our value, to know self-respect, are the ones who need to be giving love not just to our family members, but to all members of our extended family. And if you go back in time far enough, you will find that we're all related, we're all family.
Old 02-07-2007, 08:07 PM   #23 (permalink)
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That is why condoms are a beautiful thing.
The world can use condoms. Abstinence until marriage is for Christians, not the world. The world be damned...and it is. From the beginning.

Christians should live by the Word of God. If they choose not to, then they should reconsider calling themselves "Christian". Christians follow their Teacher and Master, Jesus Christ. If they say they follow Him and live like the world, they deceive themselves.

FYI, I am not trying to change the world, only call Christians to repentance and a better way of life.

I couldn't care less what non-believers do. As I said, and the Word said it before I did, "the world is damned."
Old 02-07-2007, 08:11 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Hogwash. My mom was fatherless from age 2, raised by her mom, grandparents and aunt, and she and my dad were married 54 years, until she died last August.

My point was that love does not need to come from a particular parent. Love does have to come from someone around the person. And guess what? Each one of us is around the person. We, who are blessed to know love, to know our value, to know self-respect, are the ones who need to be giving love not just to our family members, but to all members of our extended family. And if you go back in time far enough, you will find that we're all related, we're all family.
What I've written so far is generalized. Of course, your mother had a father--in her grandfather. Obviously, your great-grandfather acted in your grandfather's place.

There is a difference between a mother's love and a father's love. If you read the book I suggested, you will discover that.
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So you are for pre marital sex?
at 14? no

at 23? absolutely
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No reason (singular)?? How about,

venereal diseases, herpes, unwanted pregnancies, (oh, I forgot! abortion will "fix" that! ) fragile, weak relationships. Seems there are more than "no reason".
are you suggesting that veneral diseases, herpes and unwanted pregnancies are singular to unmarried people????

I thought that the leading rising statistic among AIDS victims in America today were to MARRIED black women.
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Recently I've been reading "Father Loss" by Elyce Wakerman. This book is a must for every girl/woman who has lost her father through death, divorce or desertion.
I don't know if it's the author's words - or if you've paraphrased him.
However, for this to be taken seriously, there is a word missing that is very important: MAY. Those things MAY happen. They may not happen. They may also happen to girls who HAVE fathers. Every - EVERY - situation is different. Your author will NEVER convince me that the daughter of Jodie Foster, a single woman with no live-in male companion, is less happy or less well-adjusted than the daughter of John Wayne Gacy, a full-time father. There are way way way too many generalizations and broad-brushed statements for the piece to have scientific validity.
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Old 02-08-2007, 02:00 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I don't know if it's the author's words - or if you've paraphrased him.
However, for this to be taken seriously, there is a word missing that is very important: MAY. Those things MAY happen. They may not happen. They may also happen to girls who HAVE fathers. Every - EVERY - situation is different. Your author will NEVER convince me that the daughter of Jodie Foster, a single woman with no live-in male companion, is less happy or less well-adjusted than the daughter of John Wayne Gacy, a full-time father. There are way way way too many generalizations and broad-brushed statements for the piece to have scientific validity.
Why don't you just read the book and see what the "experts" say. It's possible you could purchase the book for less than $3.

I have to disagree. Every child deserves both father and mother. You know, God knew what He was doing when He created both. If He didn't think children needed a father (or mother), I'm sure He'd have formed them in such a way that they didn't need each other to procreate.
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at 14? no

at 23? absolutely

So clearly you can see that its more than obvious that you are not a Christian.
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So clearly you can see that its more than obvious that you are not a Christian.


Preacherman,

You just offended the work of Christ. What he died to give mankind is not doled out by how old they are when they have sex at all!!!

You have ascribed to the same religion as the men that were offended by Jesus' earthly ministry. So go ahead and raise your hands in the air and bellow, "I thank God I am not like this poor undeserving sinner!"

While you turn Christianity into a club, realize that folk like Tristan might be the one's that are not in the club, but are sitting at the table with Jesus.

In fact, Christianity is just some manmade label anyhow. What matters to the true believer is not if he is labelled a Christian, but rather that he is identified by Christ as His.

My Beloved is mine and I am His.

Now before I vomit, I will have to sign out...waiting out your random acts of boredom.


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