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Old 02-08-2007, 04:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
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There is no debate that an unborn baby is human (what else would it be, Vulcan??). The difference between someone killing a pregnant woman and a woman having an abortion is the action is either internal or external.

If a pregnant woman dies can a family get 2 claims honored for a life insurance policy??? No.

But like I've said before... this country is crazy enough to have "pre-life" insurance work. I would love to be the first to corner that market.
But you're still spinning - out of control - on this one.

The pre-born baby is either human or it's not. If its murder for the father to end its life, it's also murder for the mother to end the life of a pre-born baby.
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Old 02-08-2007, 04:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
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But you're still spinning - out of control - on this one.

The pre-born baby is either human or it's not.
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If its murder for the father to end its life, it's also murder for the mother to end the life of a pre-born baby.
Is the pre-born baby killed, yes. But just as the soldier on the battlefield does not consider his actions murder, an internal decision that a mother makes is not murder.

In the case you posted the mother and pre born baby were both killed by an external source and is indeed a double murder.
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Is the pre-born baby killed, yes. But just as the soldier on the battlefield does not consider his actions murder, an internal decision that a mother makes is not murder.

Oh good god, that's one of the most hilariously inane bits of circular reasoning I have EVER heard!
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Oh good god, that's one of the most hilariously inane bits of circular reasoning I have EVER heard!

How do you figure?
There is a distinct difference between an internal and external source.
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How do you figure?
There is a distinct difference between an internal and external source.
So what?

Is the pre-born child a living human being, or not?

You're just not willing to answer the question head-on, because you KNOW what the implications of the truth really are!
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So what?

Is the pre-born child a living human being, or not?

You're just not willing to answer the question head-on, because you KNOW what the implications of the truth really are!
http://www.defendingthetruth.com/abo...html#post72339 (THIS Presents A Pro-Abortion Conundrum)

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So then, abortion is murder.

Thank you for admitting that.



See now bud, here's the problem. It's either a person or it's not. And if you say it's not, then you have to start running in circles determining when it does indeed become a person. It never ends...
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So then, abortion is murder.

Thank you for admitting that.



See now bud, here's the problem. It's either a person or it's not. And if you say it's not, then you have to start running in circles determining when it does indeed become a person. It never ends...
All killing is not murder Jefferson.
I don't recall "people" needing to be fed by umbilical cords walking around.

A mother has the right to do whatever she wants with her body and that includes ceasing to be a host. You need to get over this fact Jefferson.
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All killing is not murder Jefferson.
I don't recall "people" needing to be fed by umbilical cords walking around.

A mother has the right to do whatever she wants with her body and that includes ceasing to be a host. You need to get over this fact Jefferson.
...or more accurately stated, "A mother has the right to do whatever she wants with her body and that includes murdering her pre-born child."

Keep in mind, of course, that a pre-born baby is NOT part of the mother's body.



And you have, of course, opened the door to debate on Capital Punishment. But I believe that's a fight for another day.
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