nah

I'm an intelligent person

I think you're equal to a human being

What we have established here is that as long as YOU agree with the killing you have a harder time calling it murder and you even feel a need to justify it (with the chicken thing).

The point is the morality of these kinds of things is pretty personal. Is a solider killing an enemy a murderer?? Hard to say, but it is something that he or she is going to have to deal with PERSONALLY. Same goes for eating meat and the same goes for that pregnant mother when she makes that personal decision.

Do you see where I am coming from here Jefferson??

I see where you're coming from. I've ALWAYS seen where you're coming from.

And I disagree!

A soldier is facing a "kill or be killed" situation that is, like it or not, part of his required job. That's extremely different then murdering an unborn child.

An executioner who is "flipping the switch" on a convicted murderer is doing his part in the meting out of justice. Ending the life of a convicted murderer is a far cry from killing an unborn baby, is it not?

And the whole issues of eating meat? Come on... Apples and oranges, and you KNOW it, buddy.


Killing unborn babies is killing unborn babies - regardless of what you want to compare it to, or how you try to explain it away.

That is not true. You are being duplicite. For instance, a woman can be charged criminally for taking drugs while pregnant for endanger the welfare of the child. Under your logic, this is an internal action, yet, it is criminal.

dmk

A mother has the right to do whatever she wants with her body and that includes ceasing to be a host. You need to get over this fact Jefferson. __________________

A host?

You make a pregnant woman sound like a computer! Maybe that makes it easier to de-personalise the destruction of a life

What do you feel about the rights of the unborn child?

But do you see, that is the argument. Let us compare abortion first to the death penalty. Never mind that the criminal who is being put to death has had a trial and been convicted by a jury of his peers, never mind that the inmate now has had numerous appeals, never mind that the criminal actually committed a crime in the first place. The only crime of the unborn is the irresponsibility of the mother and the father.

Of course, abortion is just like war......sorta like football, huh??

And now we see the all time pandering to the far left - animal rights activists.

This is their arguments, they appeal to the most wide-ranging of all groups and muster support. The one question they never answer, honestly is, is a fetus life???? If they admit that the answer is yes, well the argument is over.

dmk

Funny thing is, Hevusa admits that the unborn child IS human, and IS a person. He just doesn't care!

"But you're going to have a hard time convincing any intelligent person that a chicken is equivalent to a human being."

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Perhaps.

But you're also going to have a hard time convincing any intelligent person that a single human cell is equivalent to a human being.

But I guess you'll likely overlook that fact.

I saw agreement that the unborn are human...

I missed the one where he said that the unborn is a person.

What page was that?

Perhaps.

But you're also going to have a hard time convincing any intelligent person that a single human cell is equivalent to a human being.
But I guess you'll likely overlook that fact.

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Apparently you are overlooking the fact that the "single human cell" will become a person within a few months, by God's good grace.

But the chicken will not