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Old 02-17-2007, 10:01 AM   #331 (permalink)
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You are such a hypocrite.

You declare that taking human life is murder.

And then, when confronted with examples of human life being taken, you then imply that human life being taken is only murder if that human life is taken under certain circumstances.

Evidently, your exclaimations of "murder" aren't based on human life being taken.

Clearly, your exclaimations of "murder" are based on certain circumstances rather than a human life being taken.

Hypocrite.
So an innocent, helpless unborn baby is NO DIFFERENT then a convicted serial killer?


Yes, I see the logic of your argument now...
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Old 02-17-2007, 10:03 AM   #332 (permalink)
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What do you mean? How are the two even remotely related?
SIMPLE:

FoundIt66 claims that abortion is RIGHT, because it is legal.
FoundIt66 claims that homosexuals not being allowed to marry is WRONG, despite the fact that it is illegal.

SIMPLE:
Old 02-17-2007, 10:04 AM   #333 (permalink)
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Now, if you (Jefferson) had simply stated that taking human life in the womb is murder and taking human life in other circumstances isn't murder, rather than making an earlier general statement declaring taking human life is murder, I wouldn't have considered your position as hypocritical when asking your position on other forms of taking human life.

(I'm sure we agree on other issues, Jefferson. So, please don't take my "you are such a hypocrite" statement as anything personal. My statement was aimed it your self-described position, and not you, per say.)
That's ridiculous.

Are you going to try to tell me that you CANNOT see the OVERWHELMING difference between the execution of a murderer and the murder of an unborn baby?

Good lord, you must be completely and totally screwed up in the head!
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Does this also apply to adult victims of accidents on life support?

See how inane your reasoning is?
Actually it does. That is the exact point that I was making.

You seemed to have an issue with the fact that the mouse was created using the DNA of two mothers artifically.

Whether it is done naturally or artificially is a moot point since we openly accept both to create and/or extend life.
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Actually it does. That is the exact point that I was making.

You seemed to have an issue with the fact that the mouse was created using the DNA of two mothers artifically.

Whether it is done naturally or artificially is a moot point since we openly accept both to create and/or extend life.
For ME, the whole point is that YOU - and every other pro-abortionist - are IGNORING the FACT that 99+% of all abortions are nothing more than post-sexual contraception.

Then you'll run off and try to talk about stupid things like cloned mice - as if that has ANYTHING to do with abortion.

It's the classic case of the Elephant in the Living Room.
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Everything. It shows your hypocrisy.
You are going to have to back that up.

Just because a couple expects a baby and veiw the pregnancy as a baby does not mean it IS a baby. Also, just because they expect a baby doesn't mean that the pregnancy will yeild a baby either.

You are trying to apply emotional terms to the realm of science and it simply doesn't mesh.
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Old 02-17-2007, 10:34 AM   #338 (permalink)
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Are you going to try to tell me that you CANNOT see the OVERWHELMING difference between the execution of a murderer and the murder of an unborn baby?
Oh, I see the difference alright.

But, I think you have to admit that human life is being taken in both circumstances.

So, based on this, you really don't necessarily value human life, per say.

You only value human life under certain circumstances...like many-if not most-other people...myself included.
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Oh, I see the difference alright.

But, I think you have to admit that human life is being taken in both circumstances.

So, based on this, you really don't necessarily value human life, per say.

You only value human life under certain circumstances...like many-if not most-other people...myself included.
That's a nice way of trying to salve your conscience.

But it's still a lie. Abortion is MURDER. You are KILLING an unborn baby because you CAN - because it has no voice - because you see it as an inconvenience, NOT a person.

And that's really very, very sad - knowing that you cannot tell the difference.
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Does God intervene when someone dies prematurely? Does God intervene when a rapist rapes someone? Does God intervene when pedophiles molest children? Does God intervene when someone murders another? Obviously not. Does God shut your mouth when you are spewing demonic BS? Again, obviously not.

Perhaps your problem is that instead of studying Christianity for yourself as we all are supposed to, you'd rather take someone else's word for what is truth or what is "Christianity". That's like eating out of someone else's plate. You don't get filled and you definitely don't get nourished. You could even get poisoned (misinformed) which may be what is wrong with you.

FYI, it isn't God's will that anyone die before their time. That is the devil's business. Christians who mouth "It was God's will" don't know what they're talking about. If you want to know God's will, read His word. That's what the whole Bible is....His will and testament.

Well, that wasn't a very "Christian" response, was it? Since when is being judgemental a Christian value?

When I ask for the opinions of others, it is because I want to hear the opinions of others. I am reasonably well studied on the Bible, but I enjoy hearing different veiwpoints. That is the nature of debate.

I'm not about bashing anyone's religions beliefs, but if I have an issue with the logic of something, I will say so.

The Devil makes a two year old choke on a toy? Or contract cancer? What would be the purpose in that? That soul would, by most Christian's belief, automatically go to heaven.

You see, I didn't find your answer to make sense either. If you have a problem with the fact that I like to try to understand how people relate to their own religious beliefs, I can't really help you.
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