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Old 02-17-2007, 01:41 PM   #371 (permalink)
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Old 02-17-2007, 01:42 PM   #372 (permalink)
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Old 02-17-2007, 02:03 PM   #373 (permalink)
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I'll start screaming "MURDER" about all 23 of the fertilized eggs in the in vitro clinics AFTER you address the 99+% of all abortions that are nothing more than post conception birth control.

I'll start screaming AFTER you confess that abortion is MURDER and that 99+% of it, happening in the USA today, is nothing more than making a baby pay for a couple's irresponsibility.

WHY SHOULD A BABY HAVE TO DIE, JUST BECAUSE TWO PEOPLE WERE SCREWING WITHOUT PROTECTION?
Oh, there are many, many, many more than just 23 fertilized eggs and embyos that have been destroyed at in vitro fertilization clinics over the years since that practice began.

And, each and every one of those "babies", as you call them, aught to be just as deserving of legally forcing a woman to gestate it...if the unborn within an unwilling pregnant woman deserves to be gestated by means of legal force...in order for your position to remain consistent.

And, so-called "babies", as you again call them, simply get aborted because women no longer wish to remain pregnant for whatever reason(s)...not because they failed to use contraceptives or the contraceptives they used failed on them.

(Many women with unplanned/unwanted pregnancies decide to carry the unborn to term, you know.)
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SURE, WHY NOT.

In exchange, let's make the other 99.9% of abortions ILLEGAL - since they are MURDER.


FAIR ENOUGH?
I'll ask you another question to continue the line of reasoning...

Why, in your opinion, is it reasonable for a a woman in this situation to be allowed an abortion and wrong if a woman in a different situation is allowed one?

I am following a line of reason here Jefferson. Stay with me on it.
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I'll ask you another question to continue the line of reasoning...

Why, in your opinion, is it reasonable for a a woman in this situation to be allowed an abortion and wrong if a woman in a different situation is allowed one?

I am following a line of reason here Jefferson. Stay with me on it.
WRONG.

First, you are going to answer WHY you think the 99.9% of abortions - that are nothing more than post-conception birth control, are alright.

YOUR TURN.

START FACING THE MUSIC, KOS. START FACING FACTS.

99.9% OF ALL ABORTIONS ARE SIMPLY MURDER THAT YOU FEEL OKAY ABOUT.



Now, I'm going to ask you again - for the umpteenth time - a question you REFUSE to answer: WHY IS MURDERING UNBORN CHILDREN OKAY?
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I'm sure the people against murder/abortion in this topic would be for banning the death penalty then? And banning war since murder occurs in it? How about banning the murder of animals for food??

Or could it be that this is just another example of the twisted sense of morality brought upon us by the "holy book" (again and again). It is pure hypocrisy and just goes to show that "morality" can never be conceived from a theory about the unknown.
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Oh, there are many, many, many more than just 23 fertilized eggs and embyos that have been destroyed at in vitro fertilization clinics over the years since that practice began.

And, each and every one of those "babies", as you call them, aught to be just as deserving of legally forcing a woman to gestate it...if the unborn within an unwilling pregnant woman deserves to be gestated by means of legal force...in order for your position to remain consistent.

And, so-called "babies", as you again call them, simply get aborted because women no longer wish to remain pregnant for whatever reason(s)...not because they failed to use contraceptives or the contraceptives they used failed on them.

(Many women with unplanned/unwanted pregnancies decide to carry the unborn to term, you know.)
Once again, your DISHONESTY and SEARED CONSCIENCE simply won't allow you to face the FACTS.

ABORTION IS MURDER.


Now... I can fully understand why you pro-abortionists CANNOT allow yourselves to look objectively at facts. It's the SAME drive that forces a pro-abortion moderator to remove pictures of aborted babies, and change my avatar. YOU CANNOT ALLOW YOURSELVES TO FACE FACTS. If you do, you'd melt in horror.


So keep up your defenses. Keep lying to yourselves.
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I'm sure the people against murder/abortion in this topic would be for banning the death penalty then? And banning war since murder occurs in it? How about banning the murder of animals for food??

Or could it be that this is just another example of the twisted sense of morality brought upon us by the "holy book" (again and again). It is pure hypocrisy and just goes to show that "morality" can never be conceived from a theory about the unknown.
Sure. Go ahead.


But nevermind the FACT that you're simply NOT comparing apples to apples.


TERRORISTS are NOT morally equal to innocent babies.
CONVICTED MURDERERS are NOT morally equal to innocent babies.


Try as you want, you CANNOT make that comparison.




And this has nothing to do with this "Holy Book" that your anti-religious bigotry has you ranting about. It has simply to do with MURDER. Remove all religion, and MURDER IS STILL MURDER.
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WRONG.

First, you are going to answer WHY you think the 99.9% of abortions - that are nothing more than post-conception birth control, are alright.

YOUR TURN.

START FACING THE MUSIC, KOS. START FACING FACTS.

99.9% OF ALL ABORTIONS ARE SIMPLY MURDER THAT YOU FEEL OKAY ABOUT.


Now, I'm going to ask you again - for the umpteenth time - a question you REFUSE to answer: WHY IS MURDERING UNBORN CHILDREN OKAY?
Fine, we will take turns.

Answer- I DON'T think that the other 99% are alright, I just recognize that it is NOT my decision to make. That decision belongs to the woman involved. Personally, I would like to see the abortion rates go WAY down.

I'll even answer your second question: I do not see a non-viable fetus as a child. The term murder simply does not apply from my POV. Once a fetus reaches the point of viability, I believe that it is WRONG to perform abortions (medical cases excepted).

Now, on to my question:

Why, in your opinion, is it reasonable for a a woman in this situation to be allowed an abortion and wrong if a woman in a different situation is allowed one?
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Once again, your DISHONESTY and SEARED CONSCIENCE simply won't allow you to face the FACTS.

ABORTION IS MURDER.


Now... I can fully understand why you pro-abortionists CANNOT allow yourselves to look objectively at facts. It's the SAME drive that forces a pro-abortion moderator to remove pictures of aborted babies, and change my avatar. YOU CANNOT ALLOW YOURSELVES TO FACE FACTS. If you do, you'd melt in horror.


So keep up your defenses. Keep lying to yourselves.

What did he say that was dishonest?
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