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Old 02-17-2007, 06:29 PM   #441 (permalink)
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For ME, the whole point is that YOU - and every other pro-abortionist - are IGNORING the FACT that 99+% of all abortions are nothing more than post-sexual contraception.
HOW is that even relevant?

Unless you're going to bring forth the argument that abortion is okay in the "1-%", but not okay for "post-sexual contraception", your observation makes no sense.

You're trying to belittle the issue by the motivation, but the motivation is irrelevant if it's entirely legal.

Suppose a man buys a mini-van so he can feed the homeless.
Another man buys the mini-van so he can bang his multiple girl-friends in the back.

The act of buying the mini-van is no less moral or immoral for either person.

The motivation of the people having the abortion is irrelevant compared to the ACTUAL ISSUE of whether or not abortion is immoral.
Stick to that...


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Then you'll run off and try to talk about stupid things like cloned mice - as if that has ANYTHING to do with abortion.
And my point is that you are PRECISELY GUILTY of what you complain of.
The motivation of the people having the abortion is irrelevant compared to the morality of getting the abortion.
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Old 02-17-2007, 06:31 PM   #442 (permalink)
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oh, yes, it's Jefferson the Compassionate speaking to us now.

LOL

damn, but you can't make up stuff this good LOL
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If you consider the fact that there are innocent children dying in Iraq because of our actions, it really isn't as irrelevant as one might otherwise think.

You think Im happy about that? Or that I dont care about that? My Goodness. You gotta clean up your own back yard before you can help someone fix theres. I didnt go to Iraq, I didnt kill anyone. There are MILLIONs of children, right here in America that are murdered before they ever see the light of day
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Third, it is VERY possible that by going to War, there are millions of lives SAVED in the long run. Therefore, again, your point is moot.
Abortion has been shown to drastically lower crime.

I just ate a murdered cow for lunch. Do you get to decide the morality about that too?? Like what God thinks about murdered cows? You think that is ok to eat meat, right Jefferson, so it CAN'T be wrong??? A live, full grown adult animal being murdered to stuff into your gut.
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You're trying to belittle the issue by the motivation, but the motivation is irrelevant if it's entirely legal.
State after state has been passing laws re-stating the fact that it is ILLEGAL for homosexuals to get married.

Therefore, it is WRONG for homosexuals to get married.


You agree with that conclusion, do you not? And if not, why not? It is EXACTLY what you claim about abortion.
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State after state has been passing laws re-stating the fact that it is ILLEGAL for homosexuals to get married.

Therefore, it is WRONG for homosexuals to get married.


You agree with that conclusion, do you not? And if not, why not? It is EXACTLY what you claim about abortion.

It was illegal for women and african american to vote. Do you think that was right??? Of course not. These laws against homosexuals won't hold out in the long run because they make no sense.
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Abortion has been shown to drastically lower crime.

I just ate a murdered cow for lunch. Do you get to decide the morality about that too?? Like what God thinks about murdered cows? You think that is ok to eat meat, right Jefferson, so it CAN'T be wrong??? A live, full grown adult animal being murdered to stuff into your gut.

I notice you mentioned you ate murdered COW for lunch. Why didn't you eat murdered BABY for lunch? Too expensive? Stomach-churning?


And since abortion has been shown to drastically lower crime (this is actually a statistical lie), then we should begin forcibly aborting babies in situations where we know the child is at a higher risk of becoming a criminal, right? There is a disproportionate amount of crime committed by blacks, right? So - by your reasoning - we should start aborting ALL unborn black babies, right?


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It was illegal for woman and african american to vote. Do you think that was right??? Of course not. These laws against homosexuals won't hold out in the long run because they make no sense.
But until/unless they are overturned - by the logic FoundIt uses - homosexual marriage is, by nature, WRONG.


...and you've just PROVEN the point I'm making - which PROVES the fallacy of FoundIt's argument.

THE FACT THAT SOMETHING IS LEGAL DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT.


Get it?
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I'll eat anything if it's cooked right.
Yeah right.

When was the last time you ate an aborted human baby?
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