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Old 02-15-2007, 02:19 PM   #81 (permalink)
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I agree totally. And though I would say I am much more pro-life, I find that the stand by organization has greatly wronged women.

So though I believe in the value of life before birth, I find that those who voice it the loudest, tend to overlook the value of the woman who is carrying that life.

Even at this forum, those who wrote most extensively against abortion also wrote with judgment and a lack of compassion for the woman.

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The woman irresponsibly made a mistake by having sex when she shouldn't have if she didn't want a baby.

The baby has done NOTHING wrong, but should die because its mother is IRRESPONSIBLE?

I see you have more compassion for the irresponsible adult than the innocent life she is carrying. Think about that for a moment.
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I bet your kids are glad you weren't pro-abortion before they were born.Today 01:56 PM
Jefferson, you really do bring up a moot point. I first of all, never said I am PRO abortion. That would mean I want to discontinue the propagation of the human race.

I do not hear anyone saying that here. I only hear that if life does not begin in the womb, then the body that is supporting that which is developing in her is for her to consider in light of what all it will mean to her. And far, far, FAR too often a woman with an unplanned pregnancy has no support from the father or from all the good folk who have judged her.

As to my personal life, and my children...I am fifty years old right now, not an opportune time to get pregnant, but if I did...I would no doubt go to term and have me a baby. It is who I am to start what I finish. But I would not ever ever ever discount another woman's right in that same situation to make another choice.

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I certainly have more compassion for the woman than for a non-entity fetus.

I find the whole "woman irresponsibly made a mistake by having sex when she shouldn't have if she didn't want a baby" sanctimonious, holier-than-thou and flat-out mean-spirited. The woman is no more irresponsible than the man who had sex and didn't want a baby.
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The woman irresponsibly made a mistake by having sex when she shouldn't have if she didn't want a baby.

The baby has done NOTHING wrong, but should die because its mother is IRRESPONSIBLE?

I see you have more compassion for the irresponsible adult than the innocent life she is carrying. Think about that for a moment.

The bitch!!!

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Jefferson, you really do bring up a moot point. I first of all, never said I am PRO abortion. That would mean I want to discontinue the propagation of the human race.

I do not hear anyone saying that here. I only hear that if life does not begin in the womb, then the body that is supporting that which is developing in her is for her to consider in light of what all it will mean to her. And far, far, FAR too often a woman with an unplanned pregnancy has no support from the father or from all the good folk who have judged her.

As to my personal life, and my children...I am fifty years old right now, not an opportune time to get pregnant, but if I did...I would no doubt go to term and have me a baby. It is who I am to start what I finish. But I would not ever ever ever discount another woman's right in that same situation to make another choice.

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Pro-choice and pro-abortion differ ONLY in degrees.

They BOTH end up exterminating an unborn baby.
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I certainly have more compassion for the woman than for a non-entity fetus.

I find the whole "woman irresponsibly made a mistake by having sex when she shouldn't have if she didn't want a baby" sanctimonious, holier-than-thou and flat-out mean-spirited. The woman is no more irresponsible than the man who had sex and didn't want a baby.
What he said.

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Ah, but your logic is flawed...

That's where we start to deal with legality not morality. The problem with killing someone is that you are impeding on their civil rights, and civil liberties. A fetus, not being a person or a citizen yet has neither.
According to YOUR logic. The Constitution say ALL are entitled to LIFE....



Your "logic" tells you that the Founding Fathers' didn't mean ALL living persons, but MY logic disagrees.

Do you know what a "fetus" is? Let's hear your answer.

Were you ever a "fetus"? Are you a "person"?
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According to YOUR logic. The Constitution say ALL are entitled to LIFE....



Your "logic" tells you that the Founding Fathers' didn't mean ALL living persons, but MY logic disagrees.

Do you know what a "fetus" is? Let's hear your answer.

Were you ever a "fetus"? Are you a "person"?
Dadgum it!!! Can't you read Observer???
He is a Tadpole!!! (and if a tadpole can be prochoice, so can you!)



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I do not hear anyone saying that here. I only hear that if life does not begin in the womb, then the body that is supporting that which is developing in her is for her to consider in light of what all it will mean to her. And far, far, FAR too often a woman with an unplanned pregnancy has no support from the father or from all the good folk who have judged her.
1. Life DOES begin in the womb. It is absurd and philosophically contradictory to assert anything else.

2. The answer to that problem is NOT to kill the baby! Make these "sperm donors" pay! Hold them responsible! We have the technology - now let's make use of it!


Stop murdering unborn children, just because somebody's pregnancy is less then ideal!
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I was being serious...so present a right good argument for why you ought to be able to eat lettuce.

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And hereby is the reason for your flawed thinking.

You believe the Founding Fathers were talking about lettuce when they wrote the Declaration of Independence or are you just being silly? Read this and see how you can possibly believe they were speaking of lettuce (or even cattle):

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. Source

"are created equal"....weren't we ALL created equally (or the same)? or were you found under a rock?
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