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Abortion How do you feel about abortion? Are you pro-choice or pro-life? Defend your views on abortion in this forum.

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Old 02-16-2007, 01:01 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Its simple really. He is appauding the fact that cause not everyone could or wants to adopt crack babies, its great that there able to KILL THEM. I've had enough of this place for one day, see ya around.
That amounts to 'it's perfectly okay for them to not inconvenience themselves aa they try to force others to be inconvenienced.'

In short, they aren't willing to 'put their money where their mouth is.'

Sounds like hypocrisy to me.
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:10 PM   #32 (permalink)
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That amounts to 'it's perfectly okay for them to not inconvenience themselves aa they try to force others to be inconvenienced.'

In short, they aren't willing to 'put their money where their mouth is.'

Sounds like hypocrisy to me.

Are you saying that its ok to kill an unborn baby because the baby is an inconvenience?
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I have wondered if I believe the Bible where I would find the place to be pro-choice.

And this is it:
Gen.2:7
"And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

Til that living being breathes, you got so much dust of the ground. Now, it is favorable to let that form, develop and ultimately live. BUT it is not a mandate by the moral code of even the Scriputre, cos man did not, does not become a living soul apart from breath!


So there ya have it, right from The Book.

OD
Old 02-16-2007, 01:31 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I have wondered if I believe the Bible where I would find the place to be pro-choice.

And this is it:
Gen.2:7
"And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

Til that living being breathes, you got so much dust of the ground. Now, it is favorable to let that form, develop and ultimately live. BUT it is not a mandate by the moral code of even the Scriputre, cos man did not, does not become a living soul apart from breath!


So there ya have it, right from The Book.

OD

Even then OD, the only thing that particular scripture shows, is one person's belief of when a fetus becomes a human being. Although, your observation is the majority observation within the religious communities...

Still, even within Christianity itself, the views/biblical understanding of when a fetus becomes an actual life differs drastically as well. Once again...It all boils down to personal opinion and preference.

Which is why I personally find it amusing that pro-life types try to claim a 'godly' meaning to this very personal viewpoint, as a means to justify why they should have the right to force their own personal preferences and religious viewpoints on another? It's mainly fundalmentalist Christianity and Mormonism that practice the belief that life begins at conception, despite the bible's contridiction to that claim...

Judaism holds that it begins at birth and abortion is not murder, although they share the same belief in the same God, just without the inception that Jesus became the living god of the old testiment?

Protestantism very widely in their opinions/teachings of when the fetus has a soul and thus becomes an actual living being...

The simple fact is, that the religious community will never reach consensus on the definition of a "person" or when abortion is morally justified. So why is it, that pro-lifers only take into consideration and want legal enforcement of their own religious views and make them a lawful enity that disregards all other personal religious views and teachings?
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Hey Alicorns Prayer Welcome to the DtT!

And yes, I would say there is so much differing within Christianity because it is based on a book that is riddled with inconsistencies and error.

Would you care to start an intro thread to share what is Alicorn's Prayer and about yourself a bit? I am intrigued with your name.

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I am intrigued with your name.

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I think you're the very first person to say that about my name. Thank you for the welcome and the inquiry into my name. (((HUGZ)))

Perhaps later, I'll do a little introduction of sorts. I really don't know though, what I'd say about myself that wouldn't bore some to tears or make others hostile towards me...from reading some of what others say towards others that are 'different', it does make me a bit apprehensive.

But just for you I'll make a stab at an introduction to who I am, as well as explain the significance behind my screen name.
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Seems to me that Tadpole's cheering is for the opposite instance. He is responding and cheering a post supporting the adoption of those children that weren't aborted, but are none-the-less unwanted by mainstream society...
Seems to me that you totally missed the point.
Didn't see where his response to that particular post was saying anything about killing those living, born, and unwanted children. So why are you exaggerating and including something that his response didn't say?
Who said he was cheering killing born babies? I didnt. What Im saying is he applauds the fact that the children cab be murdered, before there born.
Or are you supporting the main stream public's opinion that these children that weren't aborted, are not entitled to benefit by having a family? All the orphanages have become is a virtual garbage can of it's own for these children. Because those complaining the loudest about how unfair abortion is to the unborn, aren't showing a bit of compassion or care for those that weren't aborted yet still thrown away in a sense by their birth parents.
So that gives one the right to terminate them? Cause you feel they have no chance at a good life? You have no idea what I do for unwanted, and poor children. Nor do you know what others do for them. So get off your high horse. What do you do for unwanted children.
They stil have no quality of life. They still are unloved and homeless. And if one is so pro-life, you'd think that they'd be placing a higher value on the children already living and give them the home and family that they say the unborn fetus should get?
Again, why do you stand in judgment of me? You have no idea what I do for children.
At least those children in the orphanages would benefit more by your concern, then a life that hasn't even begun to experience a thing that you speak they might if born.
No one has the right to say who should, and who shouldnt live. You have no idea how any of those children will turn out, and one last time, you have no idea what I do for children. Not one thing you meantioned here gives anyone the right to murder.
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I have wondered if I believe the Bible where I would find the place to be pro-choice.

And this is it:
Gen.2:7
"And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

Til that living being breathes, you got so much dust of the ground. Now, it is favorable to let that form, develop and ultimately live. BUT it is not a mandate by the moral code of even the Scriputre, cos man did not, does not become a living soul apart from breath!


So there ya have it, right from The Book.

OD
Accualy OD, according to the bible, it would be better for you to tie a really big rock to your neck and cast your self into the sea, then to end the life of a child. Or even to hurt a child at all. You know this. If you cant even stand on the little truth you know, well, thats really sad.
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Hey Alicorns Prayer Welcome to the DtT!

And yes, I would say there is so much differing within Christianity because it is based on a book that is riddled with inconsistencies and error.

Would you care to start an intro thread to share what is Alicorn's Prayer and about yourself a bit? I am intrigued with your name.

OD

What error is in the bible?
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What error is in the bible?
If God said "let there be light" and made the first night and day on the first day, where did the light come from if the sun and moon and stars didn't exist until the fourth day?

And, what point would there be in being night and day if the earth had no form?
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