A Great Essay on Abortion - Page 13

Preacherman · 04-22-2007, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tyreay

I suggest you start caring.

Thanks for the advice. Ive requested my account be deleted though, so its no matter anyway. Be cool brother.

BTW I'd like to take this last chance to say that Im very sorry if I have offended anyone here. I never meant to hurt anyone. Again, sorry. It was good knowing you folks. Even if you dont feel the same about me. God speed everyone.

orchestrating_chaos · 09-01-2007, 03:55 AM

*backs away from the argument* I really enjoyed the article! I shall bookmark it. It really gave me more insights on the topic.

RidinHighSpeeds · 09-01-2007, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by orchestrating_chaos

*backs away from the argument* I really enjoyed the article! I shall bookmark it. It really gave me more insights on the topic.

Sure is an interesting article!

Welcome to the forums!!

fxashun · 09-01-2007, 10:07 AM

That was a very interesting article.

gonefishin · 09-07-2007, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Jaggers

There was an interesting article about what might happen if the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. See "The Day After Roe" by Jeffrey Rosen, The Atlantic Monthly (June 2006). The article made several points, the gist of which being that abortion is a "wedge" for Democrats and a "unifying" issue for Republicans; however, if Roe v. Wade were overturned, the abortion issue would, politically speaking, have the opposite effect. Democrats would become united in their efforts to push for state legislation preserving a woman’s right to have an abortion; while religious extremists would demand a complete ban on abortion, driving moderate conservatives from the Republican party, resulting in the loss of political power. Indeed, we have already seen a preview of the coming attractions with the recent ban on abortion that was rejected by South Dakota voters, and backfired on its Republican proponents. Attempts to legislate morality have repeatedly failed, such as in the case of "Prohibition" under the Eighteenth Amendment; but that never stopped people from repeating their mistakes.

While abortion is a very important issue to our society I do think it tends to distract us from other more pressing, more relevant issues. perhaps I am mistrustful, but I think perhaps politicians wish to keep us distracted, like children with a shiny toy.

fxashun · 09-07-2007, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Jaggers

There was an interesting article about what might happen if the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. See "The Day After Roe" by Jeffrey Rosen, The Atlantic Monthly (June 2006). The article made several points, the gist of which being that abortion is a "wedge" for Democrats and a "unifying" issue for Republicans; however, if Roe v. Wade were overturned, the abortion issue would, politically speaking, have the opposite effect. Democrats would become united in their efforts to push for state legislation preserving a woman’s right to have an abortion; while religious extremists would demand a complete ban on abortion, driving moderate conservatives from the Republican party, resulting in the loss of political power. Indeed, we have already seen a preview of the coming attractions with the recent ban on abortion that was rejected by South Dakota voters, and backfired on its Republican proponents. Attempts to legislate morality have repeatedly failed, such as in the case of "Prohibition" under the Eighteenth Amendment; but that never stopped people from repeating their mistakes.

I agree with that in part. Abortion should not be strictly banned. That was the problem with the SD bill. It gave no remedy in case of rape.
South Dakota voters axe restrictive abortion law - USATODAY.com
I would have never been able to vote for such a bill. And I can understand why it failed. A less restrictive approach would have been more successful IMHO. Although the margin of defeat was uncomfortably close.
South Dakota Rejects Abortion Ban
"With 91 percent of the state's precincts reporting, 55 percent opposed the abortion ban while 45 percent supported it."

fxashun · 09-07-2007, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gonefishin

While abortion is a very important issue to our society I do think it tends to distract us from other more pressing, more relevant issues. perhaps I am mistrustful, but I think perhaps politicians wish to keep us distracted, like children with a shiny toy.

I disagree. This IS an important issue to a lot of people. There are just a LOT of things going on in a society today. Abortion, war, environment, social issues, all of them deserve some debate and consideration.

Although that draconian SD bill was very suspect with it's strict ban. They should have known that wouldn't pass. But then again, like I said, the vote was rather close.

gonefishin · 09-07-2007, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by fxashun

I disagree. This IS an important issue to a lot of people. There are just a LOT of things going on in a society today. Abortion, war, environment, social issues, all of them deserve some debate and consideration.

Although that draconian SD bill was very suspect with it's strict ban. They should have known that wouldn't pass. But then again, like I said, the vote was rather close.

There is a war going on and we have starving people here in our country. children go without medical care. but all we can discuss over and over is abortion. this does not bother you monsieur?

Catus Felidae · 09-07-2007, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by gonefishin

While abortion is a very important issue to our society I do think it tends to distract us from other more pressing, more relevant issues. perhaps I am mistrustful, but I think perhaps politicians wish to keep us distracted, like children with a shiny toy.

Abortion is a 'cash cow' to the right wing. Roe is never going to be overturned. That would cause more problems than it would solve. BUT, politicians know that all they have to do is propose a strict abortion law, and the money will come rolling in.

I have to wonder if the right wings sudden focus on gay marriage isn't because their supporters are catching on to this, and they need a new 'cause' to fill their bank accounts.

fxashun · 09-07-2007, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by gonefishin

There is a war going on and we have starving people here in our country. children go without medical care. but all we can discuss over and over is abortion. this does not bother you monsieur?

That's not "all" we are discussing though. There are a lot of issues on our collective plate right now. I pointed out a few of them. Heck, just recently it was dogfighting that had a lot of people up in arms. The nation has a short attention span and anything shiny will distract us from what's important. As for our countries' medical care issues and starving people...that's a problem that will probably never be solved. Either you raise taxes, which I don't agree with, or you will never have enough money to help people who have somehow lost the ability to help themselves or the offspring they have. As a child who grew up in a single parent home...if you can call a 4 room 500 sq/ft cinderblock duplex a home.. I understand some poverty. But I also saw my mom do what she had to do and we only accepted food stamps for less than a year. It may not be the children's fault, but just how much responsibility should the government accept? As we all know, abortions ARE legal.

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