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| The Man You Love to Hate Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ketchikan, AK Gender: ![]() Posts: 1,915 Country: ![]()
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One study was performed using rats in which rats were impregnated and them caused to abort. A control group of non impregnated rats and the rats that were impregnated and then aborted were then introduced to a carcinogen. In this study the rats that were not impregnated did not develop cancer, whereas the impregnated then aborted rats did. Now I am the first to admit that these studies all have their faults.....However, that is why I stated more studies not politically motivated need to be performed. dmk Conservatism, I repeat is not an ideology. It does not breed fanatics....But if you want men who seek, reasonably and prudently, to reconcile the best in wisdom of our ancestors with the change which is essential to a vigorous civil social existence, then you will do well to turn to conservative principles -Russell Kirk- | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Here is an interesting take on this topic which focuses on Joel Brind, one of the main proponents of the hypothetical increased abortion-induced breast cancer risk: The scientist who hated abortion - - science news articles online technology magazine articles The scientist who hated abortion | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| The Man You Love to Hate Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ketchikan, AK Gender: ![]() Posts: 1,915 Country: ![]()
| Humans are not rats.....STOP THE PRESSES!!!! After all these years of study after study that says this or that causes cancer in rats, now when it comes to breast cancer we cannot believe it. One of the reasons scientists use rats is because their processes mimic our own, but as we now have heard, humans are not rats. The scare about DDT all a lie. Saccarin another.....the list can go on. Finally a scientist has said it so it must be true. dmk Conservatism, I repeat is not an ideology. It does not breed fanatics....But if you want men who seek, reasonably and prudently, to reconcile the best in wisdom of our ancestors with the change which is essential to a vigorous civil social existence, then you will do well to turn to conservative principles -Russell Kirk- | |||||||||||||||||||||
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(Besides, a relative risk of 1.3-a 30% increased chance-gathered from studies that might possibly have biases that are greater than 30% isn't, in my mind, "something to write home about" since this would be like trying to accurately gap a car's spark plugs...using a yardstick.) | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| The Man You Love to Hate Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ketchikan, AK Gender: ![]() Posts: 1,915 Country: ![]()
| I am glad that you got my sarcasm, but you missed the larger point. There is no critique on the use of rats when it is a study that is politically correct, i.e. DDT. However, when the study is politically incorrect, what happens, PEOPLE ARE NOT RATS...... Admit the real problem. People complain when someone's religious view get in the way of scientific study.......are those who allow political correctness to do the same just as bad???? dmk Conservatism, I repeat is not an ideology. It does not breed fanatics....But if you want men who seek, reasonably and prudently, to reconcile the best in wisdom of our ancestors with the change which is essential to a vigorous civil social existence, then you will do well to turn to conservative principles -Russell Kirk- | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Head of Security Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Cradle of Liberty Gender: ![]() Posts: 10,380 Country: ![]()
| Me neither. I have a lot of friends who work for Planned parenthood, and I find a lot of these statistics to be questionable at best. Fight the good fight, and die with the enemy's heart in your hand. http://www.armysailor.com http://www.tadpolenet.com/techblog ------------------------------------ Check out my latest addition to the blogosphere Quixotic Journey | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| I don't believe they're facts - I believe they're exaggerations and distortions, published by an anti-choice political organization (how many abortions are performed in the U.S. every year? And 1/3 of them attempt suicide? Just where are all the hospitals to care for these millions of suicide attempts? One? One and a half? That would be 500,000 suicide attempts PER YEAR. 5 MILLION over the course of 10 years. And nobody has noticed???) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Conservatism: Self-centered mean-spiritedness fueled by ignorance and misguided self-importance. Bigotry is a social disease. Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage." Last edited by tristanrobin; 03-08-2007 at 02:48 PM. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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