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Old 02-21-2007, 12:08 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Focus on one point you think you have a stance on - despite that the American Cancer Society is ONE SOURCE. Most of the cancer studies - worldwide - DO make the connection.


Now... onto trying to disprove the FACTS about cervical lacerations, severe depression and several bleeding due to puncturing of the uterus.



It should be VERY entertaining watching you dance.
Your own source admitted that your own source lied about the facts, to encourage others through fear of cancer as an act to discourage abortion.

And you are too weak to admit that your own source acknowledges that it lied to promote false information. So, you have a weak source that's an admitted liar and you seem incapable of acknowledging the fact you are also using the same lie to promote your own personal agenda.

Yet, the ACS itself says otherwise and IS the highest authority on giving factual information as that's what our tax monies are funneled to to give us the 'facts'...

You really are sad. The only one doing the dancing is you. And that's mainly sidestepping that you do nothing more then spread rumor and lies. THAT'S why others are more inclined to go pro-choice. And until the pro-life side actually approaches the issue of abortion on a truthful level, along with it's supporters doing so as well?

Sorry, but you lose hon. When in reality, you don't need to stoop to the levels you do to make a point. Which you seem incapable of doing, as you seem to enjoy playing the fool. If I didn't know better myself, I'd swear you actually want to paint 'pro-lifers' as liars, fanatics, and frauds as a means to promote and gain more support for pro-choice by using such false tatics as you are using here.
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Old 02-21-2007, 12:11 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Focus on one point you think you have a stance on - despite that the American Cancer Society is ONE SOURCE. Most of the cancer studies - worldwide - DO make the connection.


Now... onto trying to disprove the FACTS about cervical lacerations, severe depression and several bleeding due to puncturing of the uterus.



It should be VERY entertaining watching you dance.
All medical procedures involve risk. As long as the CORRECT information about the risk is provided, the woman can, and should, make her own decision about her body.

And in the age of the internet, there is no excuse for going into a medical procedure without having done research.
Old 02-21-2007, 12:13 PM   #23 (permalink)
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In relation to this topic, in our Ethics class, a student brought up many good points of how a woman's body can have serious negative effects after aborting a baby. The body goes through stages during pregnancy, and when you suddenly end that cycle, it could cause serious harm to the mother.

It's not as easy as you think..
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All medical procedures involve risk. As long as the CORRECT information about the risk is provided, the woman can, and should, make her own decision about her body.

And in the age of the internet, there is no excuse for going into a medical procedure without having done research.
And you still can't admit that you'd want your daughter to have an abortion.

Why?

Because for as much as you jump up and down screaming, and trying to deflect the facts, you KNOW that having an abortion is riskier than carrying a baby to term.


Kill the Kid and Mangle the Mom. But what the heck - if you can make $500 doing it, it's all good!
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In relation to this topic, in our Ethics class, a student brought up many good points of how a woman's body can have serious negative effects after aborting a baby. The body goes through stages during pregnancy, and when you suddenly end that cycle, it could cause serious harm to the mother.

It's not as easy as you think..
The female body is designed to handle that. You have to remember that spontaneous abortions do take place and have since there have been female mammals.
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In relation to this topic, in our Ethics class, a student brought up many good points of how a woman's body can have serious negative effects after aborting a baby. The body goes through stages during pregnancy, and when you suddenly end that cycle, it could cause serious harm to the mother.

It's not as easy as you think..
The same could be said about miscarriages, then.

The human body has incredible ways of handling changes to itself. It would handle an abortion no differently then it would handle a miscarriage.
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In relation to this topic, in our Ethics class, a student brought up many good points of how a woman's body can have serious negative effects after aborting a baby. The body goes through stages during pregnancy, and when you suddenly end that cycle, it could cause serious harm to the mother.

It's not as easy as you think..
But it's equally (and in some cases even more) dangerous to continue on with a pregnancy. I speak from experience myself as after the birth of my second son, I nearly bleed to death as well as was paralysed from the waist down. And in two other pregnancies, lost my babies as well as again, almost dying because of the trama the pregnancies put on my body along with one of those pregnancy being a tublar pregnancy. I'm also one of those rare individuals, that can't use birth control methods. To do so not only raises my ability to become more fertile, but also plays havoc on my body (extremem bleeding, blood pressure, tumors) and can kill me?

Currently, my hubby and I are trying to get pregnant. Against the advice of my doctors, because I'm simply not made to withstand the hardships of pregnancy or delievery. Still, it's MY CHOICE. And if any complications arrive, where I'm unable to tell the doctors what to do/not to do, it's then MY HUBBIE'S Choice of how the pregnancy will commense.
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But it's equally (and in some cases even more) dangerous to continue on with a pregnancy. I speak from experience myself as after the birth of my second son, I nearly bleed to death as well as was paralysed from the waist down. And in two other pregnancies, lost my babies as well as again, almost dying because of the trama the pregnancies put on my body along with one of those pregnancy being a tublar pregnancy. I'm also one of those rare individuals, that can't use birth control methods. To do so not only raises my ability to become more fertile, but also plays havoc on my body (extremem bleeding, blood pressure, tumors) and can kill me?

Currently, my hubby and I are trying to get pregnant. Against the advice of my doctors, because I'm simply not made to withstand the hardships of pregnancy or delievery. Still, it's MY CHOICE. And if any complications arrive, where I'm unable to tell the doctors what to do/not to do, it's then MY HUBBIE'S Choice of how the pregnancy will commense.
That's a pretty good point. Thank you for clarifying.
Old 02-21-2007, 12:31 PM   #29 (permalink)
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The female body is designed to handle that. You have to remember that spontaneous abortions do take place and have since there have been female mammals.

Yep, that does happen. Happened when I was pregnant with my twins and one was tublar while the other fetus was in the womb. Doctors wanted to operate to remove both babies, I wouldn't do it, so my body made the decision itself...And aborted both of the fetuses.

Of course, I nearly bled to death before I could get to the hospital, because I couldn't get to the phone. Had to wait for someone to find me (luckily my mother never fails to come over on a daily basis eh?), call an ambulance, and await them to get to the ER?
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