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Old 03-12-2007, 11:47 PM   #121 (permalink)
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I'm sure! That really sucks!

I'm constantly amazed by two things about rank & file drivers:
1. Disregard for the fact that motorcycles are actually motor vehicles.
2. Idiocy when following somebody pulling a trailer. My sons & I used to do a lawn-care business on the side - while they were in high school. I had a 16' tandem axle trailer that I'd pull down the road with 2-5 mowers, and all our equipment on it. It NEVER ceased to amaze me how people would pull up and follow about 5 frickin' feet behind the back of the trailer! It was simply unbelievable! It never happened, but if ANYTHING had fallen off the trailer, it would have gone right through their radiator or windshield.

Enough of the rant...

What kind of cycle was it, again?

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Old 03-12-2007, 11:48 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Dang! Nice bike!

Is this the actual bike, or just an example?

Either way, it's too bad you don't still have it!
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Dang! Nice bike!

Is this the actual bike, or just an example?

Either way, it's too bad you don't still have it!

Just an example but mine was in the same condition. Use to rent it out to photo shoots and what not.
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Just an example but mine was in the same condition. Use to rent it out to photo shoots and what not.
What would it be worth, in mint condition, today?
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What would it be worth, in mint condition, today?

Ehh around 4,5,6 k I would guess.
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Ehh around 4,5,6 k I would guess.
Geeze Louise. That's just sickening.


Anyway, I've gotta walk the dog and call it a night.


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Old 03-13-2007, 12:13 AM   #127 (permalink)
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I don't care the least bit about opinions. Opinions are wasted cyberspace. To be meaningful I prefer reality and facts.
Then practice what you preach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and quite wasting cyberspace.

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Please show me where 1 human who has ever asked to be born.
That is the choice that the parents make. They chose to have sex, which as we all know from Health class can lead to pregnancy. Therefore they assumed the risk of just this outcome in having sex in the first place. The whole biological preface of sexual intercourse is procreation. While some may gain pleasure from the act, the act is biologically important for producing offsprings.

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An interesting arguement, I must admit, but there is one major flaw in it.

The Constitution applies to citizens. A citizen is a person that was either BORN in the US or naturalized here. The unborn are disqualified by this definition.
Sorry but as I have clearly pointed out, the preamble of the Constitution is part of the Constitution, it has been the basis of the program of the New Deal and the Great Society under the auspices of the common welfare. Therefore, the preamble also states that the Constitution was ordained to secure the blessings of liberty for our posterity. Clearly the Constitution recognizes the unborn. The Constitution itself recognizes the unborn, so there is no flaw in the argument. Unless you wish to base your argument on the fact that it is in the preamble. If so I will be more than willing to say that it is therefore not in the Consitution.......however, by doing so, you will also prove the unconstitutionality of social welfare programs.

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it is a gender issue because you, being male, will NEVER EVER have an abortion.

and i've never had a "pro-choice" group tell me what to do with my life. the fact remains that as long as people are having sex, and that as much care is taken to prevent pregnancy, no method of birth control is 100% effective (not even surgical sterilization). Until such a time as there is 100% effective birth control AND all babies who are brought into the world are loved, wanted and able to be cared for, abortion should be safe, legal and rare.
Wrong!!! There is also something known as personal responsibility. If you are unprepared to have a baby, then you are unprepared to have sex. It is that plain and simple. Delay your self-gratification. Don't act irresponsibly and then claim it is your body and your choice. By hacving had sex you made your choice.

Abortion as a form of birth control is reprehensible. It is no better than a tyrant eliminate ones opposition by murder. If no method of birth control is 100% effective, and you are not ready to want a bady, to love a bady or to care for a baby then you are not ready to have sex. It is a simple and straight-forward solution.

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