Really???!!!!! Hmmm.... The DHS lists the pregnancy rate of teenagers in Texas as 134/100,000 in 1996 and 101/100,000 in 2000. Now when I was taught math this represented a 25% decrease. But of course I was taught that old math, who knows maybe this really is an increase with that New Math. Or then again it may be the blind leading the blind and ignoring the facts and figures.

dmk

Pope John Paul the Second had nothing to do with those institutions, yet you say he should not address the issue because he has no credibility because the church once did those things. Fine I will support that contention.

Therefore according to your rule

Democrats once supported slavery, they should remove themselve from the argument regarding minority issues they have no credibility.

Teachers are currently raping their students, therefore, teachers should remove themselves from the argument regarding what is best for children, they have no credibility.

Planned Parenthood was established to support eugenics, in the hopes of preventing minorities from reproducing, therefore they definitely have no credibility when it comes to abortion.

Jayson Blair made up stories and published them in the New York Times, the New York Times published these stories as news, therefore, the New York Times is not the true news but rather made up stories and should be ignored in every and all debates since they have no credibility.

Does anyone else see how ridiculous this statement was or is it just me???

dmk

">Democrats once supported slavery"

When? Please provide proof.

No, it's NOT half right. It's completely correct.

And it's a CLASSIC example of how partisan hacks twist and distort facts in order to pursue a lie.

"Abstinence only" did NOT result in increased teen pregnancies in Texas. What DID happen is that teen pregnancies fell "more slowly" in Texas than in many other states. Further, when you consider the disproportionate number of Hispanics in Texas and California, it further evidences the SUCCESS of an abstinence only curriculum.

No, it is definitely NOT just you!

It's true. The Republicans were the ones who led the fight to abolish slavery.

See how much difference 100 years can make?!

The Democrats now have a long record of standing up for minority rights thus establishing their credibility.

Yet no teacher's organization has ever come out in favor of raping children -- invalid analogy.

If this is true then their position has obviously changed.

Yet the New York Times has never come out in favor of publishing false news stories -- invalid analogy.

Does anyone else see how ridiculous this statement was or is it just me???

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The RCC is still suppressing women's rights today -- no women priests, women must subject themselves to men, etc.

So historically it is anti-woman; today it is anti-woman. It is possible for an organization to change its position on an issue -- as you demonstrated with your Democrats example -- the RCC has not done so.

I just realized that I said that WAY wrong. I should know better than to post when I'm that tired. Thanks for calling me on it.

I over simplified my statement to the point where it was entirely inaccurate. This needs to be explained in a healthy bit of detail...

I will start by referring you to this data:

http://www.teenpregnancy.org/resourc...f/stbyst03.pdf


If you look between 1992- 2000, the teen pregnancy rates across the nation dropped almost 25%, but Texas dropped just under 18%. (second page)

If you look at the statistics across the nation on teen pregnancy trends from 1991-2002 (fourth page of the PDF), the nation as a whole declined over 30%. Texas teen pregnancies, in that time, have not slowed down ONE IOTA.


Depending upon the way the data is analyzed, this can be seen as a statistical gain when compared to the whole.

No, the numbers themselves did not go up, you are correct on that, but the drop that should be increasing has frozen. With Texas teaching abstinence only, one can certainly see why.


I apologize for being inaccurate last night..

And "those" teenagers aren't going to be responsible enough, or smart enough, or strong enough, to put on condoms, take the pills, or use whatever other form of birth control is readily available.

It's sad but true.