I hope we get more people. My woman laughs at me because I lay in bed with my laptop and yell at you and hevusa a lot. And the anti-flag guy really had me fuming mad. She can't believe I engage in political debates for fun. She did not even like having to do it in college.

My father walked in my room yesterday and was like, "Your still on that thing?!?"

My girlfriend is not into politics, so she thinks I'm crazy spending all this time debating. The thing that people don't understand is that debating can be fun.

I find your analogy seriously lacking. Whether or not the Founding Fathers were considering a fetus when they wrote that is irrelevent. What is for sure is they were discussing LIFE. They obviously felt that the protection of LIFE was important enough to include in our Constitution.

The difference between your analogy of a cake and a fetus is that for a human to exist it must go through the lifecycle of being a fetus. It is developing and it is alive. A cake will never live.

I find it strange that you appreciate the fact that a nine judge panel (USSC) was allowed to determine what is alive and what is not; not even with so much as a Constitutional amendment or it being left to the individual states to decide.

I also find it very unappealing that you, like Hitler, enjoy deciding just exactly what should be considered mere cake and what should be considered a living human being.

So, I state again...the relevance of what the Founding Fathers were thinking when they included Life, Liberty & Happiness is irrelevant, the simple fact that they concluded that the life of human being should be protected is however very relevant.

Now go bake a cake.

What music did you hear playing in the background when you wrote that post? Did you wear one of those white wigs?

Abortion will always be a matter between a mother and her God if she has one. No matter what hot air is blown in the realm of political forums such as this.

Truthfully, my daughter was watching the Wiggles on T.V., so I was listening to "TooT TooT Chugga Chugga Big Red Car". As for the wig, No, it was at the cleaners at the time.

So you are saying that ALL life is equal?

Isn't cutting out a cancerous tumor a form of Abortion? Do those cells not have the right to live? They are as concious and self aware as a fetus is in the first trimester...

Ironically, as I was reading your post I was eating a slice of cake that my fiance' had baked for me just last night...

Exactly. If you believe in God that literally why have any medical procedure at all? Aren't you just messing with God's will? The point is religion lets people feel so absolutely justified. Very dangerous to morality.

And where does this need to save the world by oppressing it and limiting it's decisions come from? I don't remember seeing that in my bible...

"What you do to the least of us, you do to me..." -Jesus

There, your own "savior" said it, STOP OPRESSING OTHERS!

We oppress people everyday. We oppress murderers by saying its against the law, we repress rapists, thieves, and racists. Should we stop oppressing everyone????

Then all that would matter in the country was who was better with a gun I guess, well I guess there'd be a lot less liberals then.

dmk