Most abortions are sought out by a young lady under duress because the father of the child has decided. To bail on the girl. A fair number even driving the girl to the clinic and "dropping her off" . . .

If the father of the child can grow the child without use of the mother's body, then he can have a legal right. I think.

OD

Clumsy use of rhetorical questioning technique there OD!

Fact is the woman cannot become pregnant without the involvement of the man - so surely it's a 50/50 "investment"?

And what about women who deliberately get pregnant so they can claim child support from an unwilling father for 18 years? (Ask Tom Lykus!)

Hardly. There's a significant difference between triggering conception within a span of a few minutes and carrying a child for nine months.

I dislike argreeing with gary, but surely the father's views should be considered? If I was a father I'd expect to have a valuable input on my child. I would've helped create it, intentional or not, and I'd hope the mother would see it that way.

I lost out when it came to equal parenting. I wouldn't wish that on anyone else.

Yes, many a man is an all too willing donor but no where to be found when the baby needs to learn how to say, "Daddy."

So ought the man have rights to decide if the pregnancy is terminated? Tell me honestly how many men are loving the woman they got pregnant and offering emotional, financial and physical support to a woman that disregards all that and opts for an abortion...

OD

As I have said already unless there are medical reasons or the pregnancy is the result of rape or abuse there is no reason whatsoever for the destruction of a child.

All the tosh about emotional turmoil etc applies more to the 'pain of loss of a relationship with someone who would be support to her and the child' it doesn't apply to the child.

Abortion is most certainly used as a method of birth control. Why else is there a limit on 5 in any one year by the NHS in the UK?

Any girl who comes to a forum looking for advice on this subject should be told to take precautions next time. It really isn't rocket science.

There is far too much mollycoddling and a lack of responsibility is nurtured in this 'hurtling to damnation' world of ours. Some of us have to take the hard stand and say to the useless ineffectual others 'enough is enough'.

You have sex, you get pregnant, you have a baby.

I see no reason why the father should not have a part in deciding the fate of his baby. . . as long as he realizes that the decision to go through with childbirth is a two way street. In other words, the mother should have an equal say.

That being said, there are lots of reasons why abortion should be legal - for rape and incest victims especially. . . I'm not going to get into a long winded debate about this subject, because I swore to myself when I joined this web site that I wouldn't touch the issue of abortion with a ten foot pole. . . However, I'll stick by what I said earlier: "There is no reason why a man should tell a woman to go through with the pain of childbirth against her will. . ."

To answer the second part of your post - I guess that I just don't completely see your logic. Yes, what you said is true (about men having a financial/legal obligation to care for the child once he or she is born). To me, that only seems like more of a reason to have an abortion (if the mother so desires), especially if the father is unable to financially support the child. . .

Anyway (like I said), there are many reasons why a woman should have the right to get an abortion. . .

This bit of sunshine from Mags:

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Some of us have to take the hard stand and say to the useless ineffectual others 'enough is enough'.

Why Mags, I am downright impressed with you. There you are, engaged in truly a fruitful endeavor. Ferreting out of society certain folk and declaring them as useless and ineffectual.

You are, by contrast really so very useful and effectual yourself by such actions ! Taking, as you say, a "hard stand"...

Taking such a hard stand as that, I just hope you don't slip, Sweetie. The fall when taking such a "hard stand" just might hurt.

OD

If life isn't 'hurting' you aren't doing it properly!

I like that one.