Abortion - my opinion - Page 4

OhDear · 05-04-2007, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Preacherman

Hu? Trust the man is MADE to be responcible. They will take the cash striaght out of your pay check. They will take your license, pass port, ect ect. Eventualy they will put you in jail. LOL, think about that for a sec. A women can murder the child with no penelty what so ever, but they will put a man in jail for not supporting the child. Amazing.

It also doenst help that women are advertised as sex objects on TV, radio, bill boards, ect ect.

Now Preacherman, please just calm down a minute. And think.

Money aint everything. Especially the small potatoes most young women receive from the father of the baby to care for the child.

Who must get up throughout the night with the baby, and who has to call in to work if the baby is sick?

Who parents the child in every situation? It's not the absent parent, is it?

The misogynic strains of fundamentalism do not see the whole picture, I think.

You aren't holding any stones in your hand while you are typing here and Jesus is writing in the sand, are you?

OD

Preacherman · 05-04-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OhDear

Now Preacherman, please just calm down a minute. And think.

Im as cool as can be OD.

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Money aint everything. Especially the small potatoes most young women receive from the father of the baby to care for the child.

Small potatoes? We must be in different states, cause NY takes 17 % off the top, and thats before they take out day care, of which the man will pay most of.

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Who must get up throughout the night with the baby, and who has to call in to work if the baby is sick?

Who parents the child in every situation? It's not the absent parent, is it?

I see those things as a honor. I gladly do all of these things for my child. I also know men who wish they could do those things, but are only allowed to see the child every other weekend.

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The misogynic strains of fundamentalism do not see the whole picture, I think.

Fundamentalism has nothing to do with it. You just blow off any hardship a man can endure for the sake of his child, then tell me I dont see the whole picture. It is you who doesnt see the whole picture OD.

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You aren't holding any stones in your hand while you are typing here and Jesus is writing in the sand, are you?

I dont get it

AlicornsPrayer · 05-04-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Preacherman

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Im as cool as can be OD.
Small potatoes? We must be in different states, cause NY takes 17 % off the top, and thats before they take out day care, of which the man will pay most of.[/size][/font]
I see those things as a honor. I gladly do all of these things for my child. I also know men who wish they could do those things, but are only allowed to see the child every other weekend.[/size][/font]
Fundamentalism has nothing to do with it. You just blow off any hardship a man can endure for the sake of his child, then tell me I dont see the whole picture. It is you who doesnt see the whole picture OD.[/size][/font]
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I dont get it

This is off topic but....

Preacher? Thank you for using the quote feature while responding. (((((((HUGZ)))))))) Your efforts made it a much more enjoyable read and I for one appreciate your efforts.

OhDear · 05-04-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AlicornsPrayer

This is off topic but....

Preacher? Thank you for using the quote feature while responding. (((((((HUGZ)))))))) Your efforts made it a much more enjoyable read and I for one appreciate your efforts.

I do too, Preacherman. And I will get back to you with a post. Must get offline now.

I live the whole picture, dear one, so I can address your post.
And real quick... I was referencing the pharisees that pointed out the woman caught in adultery. NO doubt many of them guilty of the same "sin" but picking up rocks to stone the poor woman.
It's that nasty woman you gave me Lord...man has been blaming woman for all his woes ever since the Garden Crisis. Your post did the same, imho.

OD

Preacherman · 05-04-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OhDear

I do too, Preacherman. And I will get back to you with a post. Must get offline now.

I live the whole picture, dear one, so I can address your post.
And real quick... I was referencing the pharisees that pointed out the woman caught in adultery. NO doubt many of them guilty of the same "sin" but picking up rocks to stone the poor woman.
It's that nasty woman you gave me Lord...man has been blaming woman for all his woes ever since the Garden Crisis. Your post did the same, imho.

OD

I know the story, I just didnt understand the relevence. I to live the whole picture OD. In fact Id like to PM you my story, and maybe we can come to a better understanding of each other. Not now though, my son is screaming for me to go out side.

Preacherman · 05-04-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AlicornsPrayer

This is off topic but....

Preacher? Thank you for using the quote feature while responding. (((((((HUGZ)))))))) Your efforts made it a much more enjoyable read and I for one appreciate your efforts.

OhDear · 05-04-2007, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Preacherman

I know the story, I just didnt understand the relevence. I to live the whole picture OD. In fact Id like to PM you my story, and maybe we can come to a better understanding of each other. Not now though, my son is screaming for me to go out side.

I posted a reply and lost it Preacher. I will look for your PM. I understand that there are exceptional men out there who are giving, caring and parenting with their all.

OD

4seasonschat.com · 05-05-2007, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fourstarball

I dislike argreeing with gary, but surely the father's views should be considered? If I was a father I'd expect to have a valuable input on my child. I would've helped create it, intentional or not, and I'd hope the mother would see it that way.

I lost out when it came to equal parenting. I wouldn't wish that on anyone else.

Most men will not be there if the woman decides to carry the child. WHy should they have part in the decision

Peggy_Sue · 05-05-2007, 11:49 AM

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Im as cool as can be OD.
Small potatoes? We must be in different states, cause NY takes 17 % off the top, and thats before they take out day care, of which the man will pay most of.[/size][/font]
I see those things as a honor. I gladly do all of these things for my child. I also know men who wish they could do those things, but are only allowed to see the child every other weekend.[/size][/font]
Fundamentalism has nothing to do with it. You just blow off any hardship a man can endure for the sake of his child, then tell me I dont see the whole picture. It is you who doesnt see the whole picture OD.[/size][/font]
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I dont get it

Bravo!

Did I miss the mention of adoption as an alternative in this thread? Abortion should be rare. Adoption should be the preferred method. One act kills. The other act gives the child a chance.

OhDear · 05-05-2007, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Peggy_Sue

Bravo!

Did I miss the mention of adoption as an alternative in this thread? Abortion should be rare. Adoption should be the preferred method. One act kills. The other act gives the child a chance.

I have worked in Social Work and my experience shows that a mere 17% of a man's income cannot offset the difficulties that a young mother faces alone. Her support system has broken down and she has found everything to be a hurdle : education, employment, transportation, housing needs...

And poverty among children who are receiving 17% of a man's income is rampant.

And all too often, the man might be a paycheck to the child, and he might even be an every other weekend voice to that child's life, but very many times he is not a substantial support to the woman, all too often he is not undergirding her life with essential encouragement and provision emotional, practical or materially.

Whereas I am pro-life, that is MY standard to live by. I find it reprehensible that society chastises the woman for the same foolishness that the man can simply walk away from, only to send his monetary contribution of a mere 17% to the mother. And for that, he gripes for the next 18 years.

OD

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