Was it right that foreigners dictated Apartheid?

Olifant · 05-20-2007, 01:11 PM

I find it highly irresponsible that British, USA, almost every European nation criticised the Apartheid and forced it to an improper end.

It was extremely irresponsible as a slower transition to universal democracy should have been implemented to avoid the problems that are current. Not that the foreigners knew enough to care.

Idiots like Whitney Houston came down and sang their garbage concerts promoting the end of Apartheid with no consideration for anyone, black or white. They believed they were doing good but all they did was spurn poverty, crime, and disorder.

tadpole256 · 05-20-2007, 01:14 PM

Kind of like all you do is spurn hatred and evil?

Olifant · 05-20-2007, 01:27 PM

How stereotypical and again nothing you know about here. I don't advocate a return to Apartheid simply anyone here will tell you that their lives were generally better during than after - even blacks were better taken care of than now. They coming from a regime where it was welfare or on your own - they are very much in need of welfare now but now the system is rather broken.

tadpole256 · 05-20-2007, 01:58 PM

Blacks don't need to be "taken care of" you racist filth-bag. They need educations, they need a fair chance. They need assistance. The U.S. has proven that. Blacks in America today have shown that they can be everybit as successful as whites. I KNOW that's true in Africa as well... But evil fucking pigs like you slow progress. You'd rather kill them to make your world a little more comfortable for you... You're a sick twisted individual...

Antithesis · 05-20-2007, 02:02 PM

Here are some examples of how "equal" and "beneficial" apartheid was.

-Black children had only 1/10th the funding of white children in education and made it so children were only qualified for basic menial labor.
-Black hospitals were severely understaffed and underfunded, if there was a hospital in a specific area at all
-Black areas seldom had clean running water or electricity
-Blacks were prohibited from living, working, and sometimes even entering white areas ("homelands")

And you wonder why South Africa has problems today. The blacks have reaped what the Afrikaans have sown.

Olifant · 05-20-2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Antithesis

Here are some examples of how "equal" and "beneficial" apartheid was.

-Black children had only 1/10th the funding of white children in education and made it so children were only qualified for basic menial labor.
-Black hospitals were severely understaffed and underfunded, if there was a hospital in a specific area at all
-Black areas seldom had clean running water or electricity
-Blacks were prohibited from living, working, and sometimes even entering white areas ("homelands")

And you wonder why South Africa has problems today. The blacks have reaped what the Afrikaans have sown.

Where did you get those statistics from because I bet they came from some propaganda site and are unsubstantiated. Blacks were mostly in charge in building their own infrastructures how is it the whites' fault they couldn't build basic in-door plumbing for clean running water?

Some rules of Apartheid were dumb I've said that repeatedly - but the government was more abled to provide for the people including the blacks.

Olifant · 05-20-2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

Blacks don't need to be "taken care of" you racist filth-bag. They need educations, they need a fair chance. They need assistance. The U.S. has proven that. Blacks in America today have shown that they can be everybit as successful as whites. I KNOW that's true in Africa as well... But evil fucking pigs like you slow progress. You'd rather kill them to make your world a little more comfortable for you... You're a sick twisted individual...

If they don't need to be taken care of we should just take back all our lovely European inventions then including the bank, electricity and sanitation.

Let the blacks take care of themselves right?

As I recall - Blacks in the USA have the highest rate of births out of wed-lock and single mothers as well as an extremely high rate of crime and poverty compared to other races in your country. You're not a good example.

I think France is a better example because in France they are not afraid to say "black people, you are sucking shape up".

American blacks from the statistics (not everyone I've met some great ones they were all the women though) seem to act like big babies or pre-adolecents. "Welcome to my candy shop..."

Antithesis · 05-20-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Olifant

Where did you get those statistics from because I bet they came from some propaganda site and are unsubstantiated. Blacks were mostly in charge in building their own infrastructures how is it the whites' fault they couldn't build basic in-door plumbing for clean running water?

Some rules of Apartheid were dumb I've said that repeatedly - but the government was more abled to provide for the people including the blacks.

Those have nothing to do with construction anyway, so you're being irrelevant. It has to do with the money allotted to the specific homelands, which we can all agree was distributed unequally.

Olifant · 05-20-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Antithesis

Those have nothing to do with construction anyway, so you're being irrelevant. It has to do with the money allotted to the specific homelands, which we can all agree was distributed unequally.

The idea of the Bantu's homelands were that they could have their own country to do with as they pleased...why should we pay for that?

Antithesis · 05-20-2007, 02:14 PM

Here's another link from Stanford University. I think you can have the sense to respect a study by an Ivy League School without calling it "propaganda."
The History of Apartheid in South Africa