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06-05-2007, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pensacola_niceman What you "think" can not ever be considered slander - no matter how vile and twisted it might be. | I am referring more to actual written or spoken words.
And even then, it's more complicated than just "that's slander" because somebody says the holocaust didn't happen. Quote:
Originally Posted by Ave Gloria Dei  I wonder if you can be charged with slander if it's a historical event, especially since there isn't anyone in this circumstance to "blame." We have to define both slander and libel.
slan·der
n.
Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation.
A false and malicious statement or report about someone.
li·bel
n.
A false publication, as in writing, print, signs, or pictures, that damages a person's reputation.
The act of presenting such material to the public | And I think one of the main barriers to successful prosecution of such a situation would revolve around the phrase " person's reputation".
1) If all that occurred was somebody saying "The holocaust never happened." with nothing further, no reputation is maligned.
2) If the statement is "The holocaust never happened. It was a lie created by Jews.", then a GROUP of people have had their reputation maligned.
Arguably, an individual "person's" reputation may not be directly maligned, even if that person was of the Jewish faith. In addition, if the person involved was born after the Holocaust, the claim to a tarnished reputation is probably even harder to prove.
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06-05-2007, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by pensacola_niceman What you "think" can not ever be considered slander - no matter how vile and twisted it might be. | Obviously it can't be unless law enforcement is employing mind readers now.
But once you communicate those thoughts through spoken or written words you may be subject to civil action for slander or libel.
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06-05-2007, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyFlamingos Obviously it can't be unless law enforcement is employing mind readers now.
But once you communicate those thoughts through spoken or written words you may be subject to civil action for slander or libel. | I depends on who you are and what methods you take to slander somebody. Just thinking stupid things only makes you stupid - not criminal. | |
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06-05-2007, 02:21 PM
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2) If the statement is "The holocaust never happened. It was a lie created by Jews.", then a GROUP of people have had their reputation maligned.
Arguably, an individual "person's" reputation may not be directly maligned, even if that person was of the Jewish faith. In addition, if the person involved was born after the Holocaust, the claim to a tarnished reputation is probably even harder to prove.
| I would agree. I'm going to have to say that it only counts as slander if it's against an individual person or if it's against a currently functioning group of people acting as a singular entity. However, I think the group can't surpass a certain size or perhaps condition. I don't think you can commit slander against a race or religion, but against a political group, sure.
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06-05-2007, 02:29 PM
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Level up: 53%, 110 Points needed | | I don't think anybody seriously thinks the Holocaust never happened. A lot of it is anti-semitism, but from what I've heard there are Jewish groups which do not think that it did.
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