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| Affirmative Action & Race Issues Do you feel that affirmative action should be expired, or do you feel that it should still be enforced? Defend your views on affirmative action in this forum. |
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| Head of Security Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Cradle of Liberty Gender: ![]() Posts: 10,352 Country: ![]()
| Chocolate Rain This song has been hot on YouTube for like a week now, and I wanted to share it here. I really like it, and I think it takes an interesting perspective. I thought this might spawn some good discussion... Fight the good fight, and die with the enemy's heart in your hand. http://www.armysailor.com http://www.tadpolenet.com/techblog ------------------------------------ Check out my latest addition to the blogosphere Quixotic Journey | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Senator ![]() Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Gender: ![]() Posts: 3,680 Country: ![]()
| Very repetitive. Why is this popular again? "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 Last edited by Katczinsky; 07-30-2007 at 06:22 PM. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Head of Security Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Cradle of Liberty Gender: ![]() Posts: 10,352 Country: ![]()
| I liked it... It's got a good message, and he's got a great voice. Fight the good fight, and die with the enemy's heart in your hand. http://www.armysailor.com http://www.tadpolenet.com/techblog ------------------------------------ Check out my latest addition to the blogosphere Quixotic Journey | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Citizen ![]() Join Date: May 2007 Location: Detroit Michigan Gender: ![]() Posts: 127 Country: ![]()
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the thread on the menu. Also if it was why wasn't Chocolate Rain on that thread? What does Chocolate Rain have to do with Affirmative Action? | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Head of Security Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Cradle of Liberty Gender: ![]() Posts: 10,352 Country: ![]()
| It has to do with race issues. I posted it as such, not as a focus on music. The music section is under "Off Topic" it's very easy to find, or you can just use the link I provided! Fight the good fight, and die with the enemy's heart in your hand. http://www.armysailor.com http://www.tadpolenet.com/techblog ------------------------------------ Check out my latest addition to the blogosphere Quixotic Journey | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Citizen ![]() Join Date: May 2007 Location: Detroit Michigan Gender: ![]() Posts: 127 Country: ![]()
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Or lets go back to the old school...what about Don't call me Nigger .....Whitey...Don't call me Whitey...Nigger? Is Purple Rain a racist song? Prince isn't a racist by no means, due to the fact that he has a few good white Musicians backing him up. I am sure that there's a bunch of White artists who have put out racist songs. Don't get me wrong I have a bunch of White artist in my record collection. Artist that you may not even be aware or heard of, and here is a few names David Bowie,Traffic,The Doobie Bros, Dr John, Bob Seger, and my girl Janis Joplin. These artists get a bunch of respect from Blacks. Maybe we should take this to Entertainment/Music. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Head of Security Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Cradle of Liberty Gender: ![]() Posts: 10,352 Country: ![]()
| 1) I am not calling anyone a racist. I posted this song here to open a discussion. 2) This thread is not moving. Period. 3) I really like this song, I think you are misconstruing my intentions or you are trying to create a victim where there is none. 4) Play that funky music white boy is not really dealing with any serious racial issues, though I do love the song. And I have never heard of those other songs except for Purple Rain, which I do not recall well enough to say if it deals with any racial issues... None of these songs have ANYTHING to do with this thread so I don't see your point. 5) Discuss the subject at hand please. Or leave room for those who wish to. Fight the good fight, and die with the enemy's heart in your hand. http://www.armysailor.com http://www.tadpolenet.com/techblog ------------------------------------ Check out my latest addition to the blogosphere Quixotic Journey | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| I disagree. Even though the song IS a bit repetitive, it does touch on racial behavior and belief. Listen to the lyrics that come between the "chocolate rain" repetition, and there is a healthy bit of depth. I think that this song would have been better done as performance poetry without the frequent refrain. I'm going to have to listen to it again before I comment on the points raised. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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Willie was talking to my dad about a conversation he had with the Brooklyn Dodgers' Roy Campanella during a game in one of the previous seasons, anywhere from 1951 to 1954. Campanella, catching behind the plate, jokingly asked Willie: "Willie, do you see that man out there (pointing to Dodgers' pitcher Don Newcombe)? That's big Don Newcombe. He hates ni**ers." So Willie proceeded to hit a homerun off of Newcombe anyway. I guess the point is that ballplayers like Campanella and Mays can share a few laughs together about their race, even the racists in those days had other names for them, especially once Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Psalm 119:105 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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I don't get his comment 'worse than swearing, worse than calling names.' Is he addressing the fear that some hold of black people, or is he addressing the general difference in social privelidge that comes with the different colors of skin in American society? Related, but not the same. The social differences have not just 'gone away.' They still clearly exist on many levels. Obviously, ignoring it has not produced and results, so what are we, as a society, to do to address it? I don't think that anyone would argue that being a person of color works against you in the criminal justice system. The sentences are consistenly higher if you are black, hispanic etc... 'turn their bodies into GDP' - I think that is true of ALL of us regardless of race. Gross Domestic Product is what the corporations consider us all. Indeed... In the way that we treat each other around the world, the angels cry and shake their heads in shame. I can't believe that this dude is 25. He looks like he is 15 or 16! | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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