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QUOTED for proof
fuck did satan just go by on ice skates......

you non belivers can just ignore this post

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Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right.....

tristanrobin

I know

I kinda threw up a little in my mouth as I typed the words

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fxashun

Hell my eyes are still stretched from disbelief. My blood pressure dropped and I had to get IV medicine here at the clinic.

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nuttyjoe

Well, I for one am glad to see that you two can actuall agree on something. And you can disagree without the personal attacks. That is great!
As far as our friend Al, I just do not like his jumping into situations of which he has no clear understanding of; while trying to represent (as he says) the Blacks in America. Tawana Brawley and the Duke lacrosse players are the prime examples of this opportunism of his thinking.
The Don Imus fiasco was one of several causes. I agree that Al was the least of these causes. Don Imus was guilty of one thing; and that was allowing (agreeing) to precipitate such a racial issue simply because of his employers wishes to do so for the ratings. In that, he was not smart. I really didn't think he needed to apologize for anything except this foolish choice he made. Hopefully, he has learned his lesson. But while people wanted him to publicly apologize; (as well as Sharpton) I've still not heard of any apologies from the management and ownership of the media outlets that put him up to it.

nuttyjoe

Thank you for the links, Tristan. It looks like Al does have some idea of right and wrong. He just needs to leave his own opportunism out of the equation when these unfortunate incidents occur.

nuttyjoe

I definitely agree with you here, FX. If he will ever bother to fully inform himself of the facts before he jumps into the fray, maybe he could be respected more. But, I will have to see it before I change my opinion of him.

Toxic

This is indicative of the fact that people in America are turning into fucking pussies at an alarming rate. Words are fucking words.... nigger, kike ,cunt.... none of them have any more power than are given to them . At this point though the n-word is the linguistic equivalent of an atom-bomb. It is amazing to me that the people who used to embody hard work and perseverance against the odds are now the most neutered and pussified of all the races. At what point did people get so fucking sensitive? Who the fuck cares what another person thinks or says about you? Doing away with the words won't matter as long as the ideals that embody the words are still thriving. Political correctness is good for blowing up bullshit to critical mass while things that matter fall through the cracks. Who fucking cares if corporate America is raping the middle class, Kramer called somebody a nigger! Political correctness is a form of thought control that keeps people focused on bullshit while the same pirates who have always raped humanity continue to do so.

nuttyjoe

You are right that words are just words; but I assume you would not be in anyway upset if a teacher of a child's teacher were to ask him or her:
"Where is your fucking homework today; you damn nigger'? (or Kike, Cunt, Spic, Wetback, Pollock, and the list will go on forever).
This is why it must stop. Period. If we are to allow this, then we are to say that this behavior is acceptable for our children to perpetuate this. Our children will think that hatred is okay.It isn't.

Toxic

nuttyjoe :

"You are right that words are just words; but I assume you would not be in anyway upset if a teacher of a child's teacher were to ask him or her:
"Where is your fucking homework today; you damn nigger'? (or Kike, Cunt, Spic, Wetback, Pollock, and the list will go on forever).
This is why it must stop. Period. If we are to allow this, then we are to say that this behavior is acceptable for our children to perpetuate this. Our children will think that hatred is okay.It isn't."

Firstly, I don't know what a "teacher of a childs teacher" is. Please clarify.

Secondly, the subject of discussion is a comedian who is addressing adults, and making jokes not directed at any one person, not a freak who is sadisticly emotionally abusing a child. It is inappropriate for a teacher to use profanity in a classroom , it is not inappropriate for a comedian to use profanity in his act, this is where the two situations differ. Please attempt to make a less ridiculous hypothetical in the future, comparing the two things does not help your case.

Secondly , there was no "hatred" intended. It was a black guy using a word that the vast majority of black people still use, at least the ones who havent been castrated by political correctness yet. This wasn't even remotely related to hate speech.

Why isn't it ok to hate? You can hate everyone on this planet if you want to, and still never do anything to harm another human being. Benign ideological hate does not inevitabelly lead to a violent act. I will take a black supremecist who mind's his own business over a crackhead who has no qualms about stabbing anyone regardless of race to get his next fix. But what you mean by it isn't ok to hate , you of course mean it isn't ok to hate the "oppressed" people of the world. it is still perfectly acceptable to hate republicans, southerners, christians, and white supremacists.

Anyone can think anything they want about me , anyone can hate me for whatever reason they want, and anyone can say basically anything they want to me all because of free speech. As long as they don't cross the line into a physical confrontation that is their right as an American. At what point did it become more unnaceptable to think/believe the wrong things than it is to actually commit negative actions(as long as they aren't racially motivated)?

Anyone should be able to say anything that they want in the proper forum. We are quickly on the way to the kind of "thought crime" legislation that has destroyed freedom of speech in Europe.

In short, in my opinion .....
hateful thoughts/words = acceptable violent actions=unnaceptable.

Toxic

"This is why it must stop. Period. If we are to allow this, then we are to say that this behavior is acceptable for our children to perpetuate this. Our children will think that hatred is okay.It isn't."

Please don't use your kids as a reason that I can't say what I want to say. Just because you decided to have kids doesn't mean that the world needs to change to facilitate their impressionable minds. If you want to censor yourself , feel free, but don't pretend that it's for your kids, it is really so that you can follow the path of least resistance and buy into the religion of political correctness.