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Affirmative Action & Race Issues Do you feel that affirmative action should be expired, or do you feel that it should still be enforced? Defend your views on affirmative action in this forum.

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Old 10-19-2007, 09:35 AM   #21 (permalink)
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what if, me as a black man, went and took a KKK uniform and strung it up in my yard as a sort of ironic halloween decoration. oh, how that would have went unnoticed?
what if i placed a guilloteen (pardon the spelling) and put a body in it and placed a head in a basket...would that have caused a stir or not.
or what if i took a naked dummy and made a prison scene from Abugraten (again, the spelling), who would have been pissed.
I think you're wrong.
I don't think anybody would have said anything about any of those things.

I know the largest Halloween display (which is unbearably tacky LOL) in my area has all kinds of ghouls, and ghosts, and zombies, etc. hanging from nooses (amid all the inflatable Halloween decorations and headstones and spider webs and ...). It is a black family - and I don't for ONE SECOND believe they think their display has ANYTHING whatsoever to do with slavery, civil rights or the plight of black Americans in today's society. They are simply decorating in the style of the holiday for their kids.

The only way I would find these displays racist would be if the nooses held the ragged clothed figures of African American slaves.
I agree with you Tristan. And everything Spin said in the bit you quoted, can actually be found in just about every Halloween Haunted House display one visits, as well as yard decorations of people of all ethnic races.

I can understand that some things should be pc...But there's also the aspect that one can go too far with expecting complete pc thinking. And certain people are just really over-reacting about that fellow's Halloween decorations and making more of it then it is, for nothing more then over exaggerated pc mentality.

He didn't put up anything racial. He put up HALLOWEEN MONSTERS, not represenative of any people or anyone's race. And to try and make it anything more then that, in my opinion, is silliness.

What's next? Anyone wearing a costume as a ghoul, space alien, and Frankenstine going to be accused of being a racist?

Watch out Casper...He's probally next on the hit list of 'it's just not pc'...
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:40 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I agree with you Tristan. And everything Spin said in the bit you quoted, can actually be found in just about every Halloween Haunted House display one visits, as well as yard decorations of people of all ethnic races.

Spin seems to forget that hanging was used as a form of execution in Europe LONG before slaves were brought to the States.

History didn't start with us.


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Spin seems to forget that hanging was used as a form of execution in Europe LONG before slaves were brought to the States.

History didn't start with us.

Hanging has been used since men learned to make rope...All over the world, in all cultures, and for a multitude of reasons. Even before Europe.

Mankind have been killing since they stepped out of the primoridial ooze. So focusing on just one blink in time, putting one instance above that of another, seems fruitless to me.
Old 10-19-2007, 09:51 AM   #24 (permalink)
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If you REALLY wanna be racist, put two youthful black dummies pointing a friggin gun at each other. THAT would be racist AND topical.

Just saying.
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If you REALLY wanna be racist, put two youthful black dummies pointing a friggin gun at each other. THAT would be racist AND topical.

Just saying.
Hey, you won't hear me disagreeing with you about this FX...Cause I happen to agree fully with what you've said in this thread from the get-go.
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Hanging has been used since men learned to make rope...All over the world, in all cultures, and for a multitude of reasons. Even before Europe.

Mankind have been killing since they stepped out of the primoridial ooze. So focusing on just one blink in time, putting one instance above that of another, seems fruitless to me.
Hanging was used to execute cattle rustlers and horse thieves in the 'old west', and let us not forget the Salem witch trials.

It's rather arrogant to assume that any reference to a hanged man MUST mean African Americans.


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Hanging was used to execute cattle rustlers and horse thieves in the 'old west', and let us not forget the Salem witch trials.

It's rather arrogant to assume that any reference to a hanged man MUST mean African Americans.

I fully agree with you too.
Old 10-20-2007, 12:13 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Hanging was used to execute cattle rustlers and horse thieves in the 'old west', and let us not forget the Salem witch trials.

It's rather arrogant to assume that any reference to a hanged man MUST mean African Americans.
The fact that it's a display of the gallows is why it also really reminds me of the old west; outlaws, gunslingers, cowboys, train robbers, cattle thieves and all that. I don't think of the lynchings of backs by racists when I see the gallows, but maybe that's becuase i'm just an ignorant, naive white boy.

Now if it were a tree with a bunch of nooses hanging on it, then the ire a few (And I mean a few.) have over the Halloween decoration could be a little more justifiable.
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all this people of color/orgin LOVE to complain about racism. but what about me apple pie what do i complain about NOTHING coz i can't claim racism if even i am hated on. it's just a way for some people to have a pity party which is sad.
i'd like to meet a mad neocon man coz once you go neo you don't go back. M
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all this people of color/orgin LOVE to complain about racism. but what about me apple pie what do i complain about NOTHING coz i can't claim racism if even i am hated on. it's just a way for some people to have a pity party which is sad.
Neo, you could always go and live among a race of people that would make you a minority...then perhaps you could complain about racism if you get hated on too...

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