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Affirmative Action & Race Issues Do you feel that affirmative action should be expired, or do you feel that it should still be enforced? Defend your views on affirmative action in this forum.

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Old 11-02-2007, 03:24 PM   #71 (permalink)
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I don't watch the guys show, so I don't "know" him. But if this is the only "evidence" they have of him being a "racist", I can't "convict" him. I've said worse about women, other black people, white people, hispanics, and some other "types" of people. The guy used a few slurs while talking in what he thought was a private conversation with his son. I can't crucify the guy as "racist" from that. Hell he was married by a black preacher.
But I guess it doesn't matter. His show is toast.
Just think FX...Something you and I both agree one. Who would of thunk it eh? LOL!

Although I'm not the type to use curse words or slang...I can't say the same thing about some of my family members. But as long as they're not saying the bull publically, what they say in their own homes is their business, not my own.

I just find it really sad that the focus is more on what the man said in a private, non-public moment...Yet the true criminal action is being totally overlooked and buried...

Like I said earlier...What he said was distasteful...But the manner in which that private, non-public moment came to light was criminal and done solely to be vindictive, in my opinion.
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:34 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Just think FX...Something you and I both agree one. Who would of thunk it eh? LOL!

Although I'm not the type to use curse words or slang...I can't say the same thing about some of my family members. But as long as they're not saying the bull publically, what they say in their own homes is their business, not my own.

I just find it really sad that the focus is more on what the man said in a private, non-public moment...Yet the true criminal action is being totally overlooked and buried...

Like I said earlier...What he said was distasteful...But the manner in which that private, non-public moment came to light was criminal and done solely to be vindictive, in my opinion.
So you don't mind if someone is a racist in private so long as they pretend not to be racist in public??!

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Old 11-02-2007, 03:46 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Well Gary, who is dissappointed in you!?
Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Psalm 119:105
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:26 AM   #75 (permalink)
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sorry peeps,
i still c myself as being connected somewhat to this generation. im not living in some soapbox or spoon fed bs so let me put this in my text as i always do. no i dont capitalize, or use punctuation at all when posting on blogs, message boards, etc. your doing good just 2 get vowels. i'm always in text messaging mode bcause i send about 500 text a day...so again, i will not apologize for this. get over it or ban me.
the language that i was speaking, take it away from here and put it on streetcred, vibeonline, datpiff.com, etc...or my own even. it fits in place with the environment and the mood. as educated as i am, seeing nooses piss me off. kind of like being called a nigga, but not as offensive, but offensive, nonetheless. it does still offend you to be called a nigga right?
the way you uncle toms are talking, im at fault for speaking the way that i did and not the damn nooses that made me speak the way i did.
and that damn rebel flag is completely and totally in context. most rednecks fly them proud just to tick off black people...like nooses. see the similarities. there were 100 people at the townhall meeting, all mixed ages, but most were over 40. they didnt experience that happened but it was fresh on their minds because their parents did. i dont like it when black people try and down play any type of hatred, misguided, ignorant or blatant. its all the same.
dont tell me what to be offended at. its offensive. not to you apparently because it wasnt offensive ENOUGH, but was it offensive to you at all? people need to be put in their place and checked to make sure that these inadvertent offensive dont continue to happen and become outright disrespectful acts of hatred.

im not going to go out of my way to capitalize and spell check my post on a damn message board, seriously. if i dont do it for my site, im sure as hell not going to make any extra provisions for a bunch of prude asses who arent even attempting to see the issues and take more time attacking me and my words than the 3 symbols of intimidation and hate hanging from the gallows. thats whats ludicrious and all of yall can kiss my ass.
Well there Spin, it also shows courtesy and for that matter reflects a bit of your intelligence to be able to assess an environment and blend in with the other participants. For you to come into this forum in "text messaging mode", even though no one else is, doesn't reflect well on you. But if that's the best you can do, it's good thing most of us ARE intelligent enough to decipher your poorly written posts.

Yes it wold offend me to be called nigger. But it doesn't have to be from a white person for me to be offended. I can be just as offended when a black person uses the word. Just as when rap "stars" use "hoes" and "bitches" talking about [black] women in the strip club or even walking down the street. Referring to women in that way should be offensive not only to women, but also any man that loves them.

I wonder why there are no mainstream "white" songs referring to young white women in such terms? Strange, yet whenever you turn on a "black" radio station 80% of the music degrades or own race by referring to cheating, denigrating black women, or glamorizing an unhealthy lifestyle. Why don't you do a video blog about that? Something that effects a lot more people that some innocuous scene in front of some peoples house.

So no, I'm not gonna tell you what to be offended by. But if that scene in front of that house "offended" you, then there should be numerous other things on your web site that "offend" you as well. But when I last checked, I didn't see any mention of them. It seems to me that you were just being as simple minded as your speech and grammar here and joining with those other simple minded people "protesting" in front of that house. As "black folks" the last thing we need to be worrying about is a few dolls hanging in front of somebody's house.

Have you seen the drug abuse rates in our community?
Have you seen the violent crime rate as well?
Have you seen the AIDS rates among our gay black men and hetero black women?
Have you seen how many black men are in prison?
Have you seen the average condition of the black family's credit?
Have you checked on the rates of graduation from high school or college for black men?
Need I continue? If you wanna have a personal crusade, there are many other issues you can take up instead of this BS.

Dude, if you are gonna be so easily "offended" you ain't seen sh*t yet. Cause all the nooses in the world don't mean a damn thing compared to the nuclear bomb we are dropping on our own friggin race.

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Old 11-12-2007, 02:46 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Very well spoken, not let me interject. What offends me is when people like you pretend that minor offenses should NOT be addressed because we have large issues. I agree with the fact that we have larger issues, like the ones you posted, but the minor ones, the subtle ones and the hints all need to be addressed. In your statement you said that Dog shouldn’t be judged because he said what he said in the “privacy” of his own home. You also stated that the figures were “hanging”.
I need you to see this from my perspective please. I grew up in the hood. Escaped it and finally made something of myself through education and experience.
I’m not saying that it is ok for the words that are being spoken on the radio and on the street. I’m stating that this is Rap music. Rap has always been about street poetry. If what you’re hearing on the radio offends you, it’s your right to turn it off and not buy it. Its also the artist’s right to speak candidly and be open and honest. They speak that way because of their environment that society made for them. I’m not giving them an excuse; I’m saying that the battle with rap artist has been a battle since the emergence of rap music on Pop culture. It’s not going to change because the culture isn’t.
What hasn’t changed is the word “nigga”. Yes a few educated people attempted a funeral and tried to give the word a proper burial. Was this “funeral” on national television? Shouldn’t this momentous occasion have been televised on every single network across the globe? Instead we got a blur on the news and newspaper about the funeral after the fact.
In direct response to what you said, if someone said that or anything else in secret, then I would call them a secret racist. Stating the word in supposed secrecy does not give him a free pass. I’m mad that you said you would not classify him as a racist for not saying a racist word. How completely and totally asinine of you. I’m tired of even the small stuff not being addressed and when this person, the star of a nationally syndicated television show says “nigga” is given reasons why its ok and the fact that he said it isn’t even the main issue is counter productive to the whole movement.
He didn’t say what’s up nigga. Or nigga please. He called her a nigga and he said it in a derogatory manor. I was offended the moment that I heard it, and you’re worried about his privacy.
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Very well spoken, not let me interject. What offends me is when people like you pretend that minor offenses should NOT be addressed because we have large issues. I agree with the fact that we have larger issues, like the ones you posted, but the minor ones, the subtle ones and the hints all need to be addressed. In your statement you said that Dog shouldn’t be judged because he said what he said in the “privacy” of his own home. You also stated that the figures were “hanging”.
I need you to see this from my perspective please. I grew up in the hood. Escaped it and finally made something of myself through education and experience.
I’m not saying that it is ok for the words that are being spoken on the radio and on the street. I’m stating that this is Rap music. Rap has always been about street poetry. If what you’re hearing on the radio offends you, it’s your right to turn it off and not buy it. Its also the artist’s right to speak candidly and be open and honest. They speak that way because of their environment that society made for them. I’m not giving them an excuse; I’m saying that the battle with rap artist has been a battle since the emergence of rap music on Pop culture. It’s not going to change because the culture isn’t.
What hasn’t changed is the word “nigga”. Yes a few educated people attempted a funeral and tried to give the word a proper burial. Was this “funeral” on national television? Shouldn’t this momentous occasion have been televised on every single network across the globe? Instead we got a blur on the news and newspaper about the funeral after the fact.
In direct response to what you said, if someone said that or anything else in secret, then I would call them a secret racist. Stating the word in supposed secrecy does not give him a free pass. I’m mad that you said you would not classify him as a racist for not saying a racist word. How completely and totally asinine of you. I’m tired of even the small stuff not being addressed and when this person, the star of a nationally syndicated television show says “nigga” is given reasons why its ok and the fact that he said it isn’t even the main issue is counter productive to the whole movement.
He didn’t say what’s up nigga. Or nigga please. He called her a nigga and he said it in a derogatory manor. I was offended the moment that I heard it, and you’re worried about his privacy.
I'm just wondering, SD... have you ever watched the Kings of Comedy? Are you not offended by this? Personally, I'm disgusted that every Black comedian uses "Black Ignorance" in their repetoire.
Okay, Dogg the Bounty Hunter has racist tendencies. I can accept that. What I can't accept is why you want to categorize all Whites as such. And remember, you didn't hear Dogg say those words. You heard an illegally obtained, illegally recorded conversation that would be of no provenant value in any court in any city, county, or state in America. I agree with Ali. Are you saying that you think it is acceptable to invade the privacy of a private citizen's home just because you think he might be a racist?
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Look, let me break this down simply. I don’t care how they obtained the information and I didn’t not categorize all white people as being racist. I do categorize that all white people that say "nigga" is racist. Where do you get off that I put all white people in that category, I never said that. If you did your research and actually read through the text message garb, you would see where I said that my wife was white and that I was multi-racial. What I hate my wife and part of myself now? Again, this room is full of some of the dumbest smart people. Just shut up, please.

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So you think it is okay to be called "nigger" or "nigga" (your vernacular) from Blacks? Or is it okay that they refer to you you these terms if they are "from the "hood"? This is where you tie your own tongue, young man. You speak against such racist acts (as well you should) but yet you accept this from people with "street-cred". If your wife chooses to accept this thought process of yours; that's her business.
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Yes I accept it from my own people. We, my people, use this word as strength. The word is used in so many ways to hurt and harm, so we use it in everyday speech. I don't know why honestly, but we do. Like I said before, its part of the culture and the environment. Just as it was part of the culture to be called boy and think nothing of it, but that part of the culture has slowed to a crawl. It’s not the same for a non-black to say what's up nigga. But for a black to say it, amongst his boys, yes it’s ok. If I walked in the hood and someone I didn’t know walked up to me and said what's up nigga, I wouldn’t think anything of it but NO ONE OTHER THAN a BLACK MAN/WOMAN should be saying it to another black person. Change the phrasing or enunciate the wrong syllable and you could have a riot on your hands.
Again, it’s this twisted train of thought that gets me. I can accept what you’re saying if you are saying that the word is bad and should never be said. I AGREE!!!!! But as you stated, if you’re saying that the word is bad but he gets a free pass because the way the conversation was made public was unethical and illegal, I don’t agree. The fact is, he said it, and he admits he says it a lot. Pick your battle. Either it’s ok to say all the time or NONE, there is no gray area. I chose to say it, my friends say it and if your a fried and your white, they know to say it at certain times and certain places because if it slips around people that do not know them, their dead. I admit I have some grey area. I know the word is bad, I know we shouldn’t say it, according to the public. But the consensus amongst young black men, especially of the hip hop culture, is that word was used to strike fear in black people years ago, white people can’t use it, but we can. We’ve earned that right.
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