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Old 01-06-2008, 02:51 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Yep, and in his classic style, he's whining all about it on his site...

As always...

I know that's why he does it...Cause he even hinted on his more recent post there that he was seeing how far he could push it here, to see how long before he was banned again...Seems he likes being a career ban-ee...So he has something to post about there. LOL!

Yea, he's made quite the career for himself, he's already got himself banned on several forums not counting this one lol. David does this so he can retreat to his site afterwards to whine about how the so-called Zionist forums kicked him out for exposing the "truth" (Truth meaning paranoid conspiracy theories) about Jews. It'd be amusing if it weren't so sad... nahhh it's still amusing lol.

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If that was your attempt at trying to slur/insult him...To try and get a rise out of him and others...It was a very poor attempt on your part and you failed miserably there. You were much more successful with your derogitory comments towards OD and WT.

He wanted to "prove" that the "Pro-Zionist" forums take less offense to "Mr. African American" than "Typical slimy Jew". Yeah....


BTW, one more comment on the document in question. I'd like to point that nowhere in the document do you see word "Jude" (German for Jew) or any of its variations. I guess he was hoping he could swindle a few into joinng his side by posting some "official" numbers or something. The best part is that he's whined about intellectual dishonesty on our part on his website.
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He wanted to "prove" that the "Pro-Zionist" forums take less offense to "Mr. African American" than "Typical slimy Jew". Yeah....


BTW, one more comment on the document in question. I'd like to point that nowhere in the document do you see word "Jude" (German for Jew) or any of its variations. I guess he was hoping he could swindle a few into joinng his side by posting some "official" numbers or something. The best part is that he's whined about intellectual dishonesty on our part on his website.

For the record I have no objection to him calling me a Jew, I don't consider it a slur, any more than being called a Catholic or a Hindu.

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Yep, and in his classic style, he's whining all about it on his site...

I know that's why he does it...Cause he even hinted on his more recent post there that he was seeing how far he could push it here, to see how long before he was banned again...Seems he likes being a career ban-ee...So he has something to post about there. LOL!

He's also under the impression that for some reason Nutty (and others) would/should have been insulted by the term 'Mr. African American' and seen that as a racist slur...

Considering society is told to refer to black racial groups using the terms African Americans or Black American, instead of using derogitory uses of the 'N' word, 'Colored', 'Negro', or other euphanisms used towards their race in a derogitory manner.

Sorry there David...But African American or Black American is actually the appropriate and RESPECTFUL addressing to thier race and culture by non-black groups. Unless the individual themselves say otherwise.

And in this instance, we have to take our cue from Nutty, as it's only himself who can say whether or not what you said was derogitory towards him.

Since he didn't comment to your response...And I know he did read your comment because he was in this thread long after you posted that comment...it's safe to assume he found it appropriate and not worth responding to.

If that was your attempt at trying to slur/insult him...To try and get a rise out of him and others...It was a very poor attempt on your part and you failed miserably there. You were much more successful with your derogitory comments towards OD and WT.
Thank you, Ali. I did read David's comment; but I had to run some errands and didn't have the time to tell him that he will not get such a rise from me. I don't care how or what he thinks of me. I have everything in life that I truly value; and his blatant racist views of Blacks, African-Americans, and Jewish people do not count among them. I don't mind debating; but I do not accept hatred. David, had you spent more time reading other threads in this forum, you would see that I will even speak out against Blacks who have shown their hatred on ths forum. If you want to attack me, son; you had better think of a different way to do so.
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For the record I have no objection to him calling me a Jew, I don't consider it a slur, any more than being called a Catholic or a Hindu.

It's simply inaccurate.
I agree with you there, Gary. I just simply find it funny because of the innacuracy caused by his hatred.
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Which part of this historical record do you wish to refute, David and Jenifer? And on what factual documentation can you dismantle this historical record?

(It is well worth the read. And a timeline does indeed read fast, so please ALL, go to the link. )

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Jump to: 1938 1939 1940 1941 1942 1943 1944 1945

1933
Jan 30, 1933 -Adolf Hitler is appointed Chancellor of Germany a nation with a Jewish population of 566,000.
Feb 22, 1933 -40,000 SA and SS men are sworn in as auxiliary police.
Feb 27, 1933 -Nazis burn Reichstag building to create crisis atmosphere.
Feb 28, 1933 - Emergency powers granted to Hitler as a result of the Reichstag fire.
March 22, 1933 - Nazis open Dachau concentration camp near Munich, to be followed by Buchenwald near Weimar in central Germany, Sachsenhausen near Berlin in northern Germany, and Ravensbrück for women.
March 24, 1933 - German Parliament passesEnabling Act giving Hitler dictatorial powers.
See also - The Rise of Hitler - from Unknown to Dictator of Germany
April 1, 1933 - Nazis stage boycott of Jewish shops and businesses.
April 11, 1933 - Nazis issue a decree defining a non-Aryan as "anyone descended from non-Aryan, especially Jewish, parents or grandparents. One parent or grandparent classifies the descendant as non-Aryan...especially if one parent or grandparent was of the Jewish faith."
April 26, 1933 - The Gestapo is born, created by Hermann Göring in the German state of Prussia.
May 10, 1933 - Burning of books in Berlin and throughout Germany.
July 14, 1933 - Nazi Party is declared the only legal party in Germany; Also, Nazis pass Law to strip Jewish immigrants from Poland of their German citizenship.
In July - Nazis pass law allowing for forced sterilization of those found by a Hereditary Health Court to have genetic defects.
In Sept - Nazis establish Reich Chamber of Culture, then exclude Jews from the Arts.
Sept 29, 1933 - Nazis prohibit Jews from owning land.
Oct 4, 1933 - Jews are prohibited from being newspaper editors.
Nov 24, 1933 - Nazis pass a Law against Habitual and Dangerous Criminals, which allows beggars, the homeless, alcoholics and the unemployed to be sent to concentration camps.

1934
Jan 24, 1934 - Jews are banned from the German Labor Front.
May 17, 1934 - Jews not allowed national health insurance.
June 30, 1934 - The Night of Long Knives occurs as Hitler, Göring and Himmler conduct a purge of the SA (storm trooper) leadership.
July 20, 1934 - The SS (Schutzstaffel) is made an independent organization from the SA.
July 22, 1934 - Jews are prohibited from getting legal qualifications.
Aug 2, 1934 - German President von Hindenburg dies. Hitler becomes Führer.
Aug 19, 1934 - Hitler receives a 90 percent 'Yes' vote from German voters approving his new powers.

1935
May 21, 1935 - Nazis ban Jews from serving in the military.
June 26, 1935 - Nazis pass law allowing forced abortions on women to prevent them from passing on hereditary diseases.
Aug 6, 1935 - Nazis force Jewish performers/artists to join Jewish Cultural Unions.
Sept 15, 1935 - Nuremberg Race Laws against Jews decreed.

1936
Feb 10, 1936 - The German Gestapo is placed above the law.
In March - SS Deathshead division is established to guard concentration camps.
March 7, 1936 - Nazis occupy the Rhineland.
June 17, 1936 - Heinrich Himmler is appointed chief of the German Police.
Aug 1, 1936 - Olympic games begin in Berlin. Hitler and top Nazis seek to gain legitimacy through favorable public opinion from foreign visitors and thus temporarily refrain from actions against Jews.
In Aug - Nazis set up an Office for Combating Homosexuality and Abortions (by healthy women).

1937
In Jan - Jews are banned from many professional occupations including teaching Germans, and from being accountants or dentists. They are also denied tax reductions and child allowances.
Nov 8, 1937 -'Eternal Jew' travelling exhibition opens in Munich.

1938 Return to Top of Page
March 12/13, 1938 - Nazi troops enter Austria, which has a population of 200,000 Jews, mainly living in Vienna. Hitler announces Anschluss (union) with Austria.
In March - After the Anschluss, the SS is placed in charge of Jewish affairs in Austria with Adolf Eichmann establishing an Office for Jewish Emigration in Vienna. Himmler then establishes Mauthausen concentration camp near Linz.
April 22, 1938 - Nazis prohibit Aryan 'front-ownership' of Jewish businesses.
April 26, 1938 - Nazis order Jews to register wealth and property.
June 14, 1938 - Nazis order Jewish owned businesses to register.
In July - At Evian, France, the U.S. convenes a League of Nations conference with delegates from 32 countries to consider helping Jews fleeing Hitler, but results in inaction as no country will accept them.
July 6, 1938 - Nazis prohibited Jews from trading and providing a variety of specified commercial services.
July 23, 1938 - Nazis order Jews over age 15 to apply for identity cards from the police, to be shown on demand to any police officer.
July 25, 1938 - Jewish doctors prohibited by law from practicing medicine.
Aug 11, 1938 - Nazis destroy the synagogue in Nuremberg.
Aug 17, 1938 - Nazis require Jewish women to add Sarah and men to add Israel to their names on all legal documents including passports.
Sept 27, 1938 - Jews are prohibited from all legal practices.
Oct 5, 1938 - Law requires Jewish passports to be stamped with a large red "J."
Oct 15, 1938 - Nazi troops occupy the Sudetenland.
Oct 28, 1938 - Nazis arrest 17,000 Jews of Polish nationality living in Germany, then expel them back to Poland which refuses them entry, leaving them in 'no-man's land' near the Polish border for several months.
Nov 7, 1938 - Ernst vom Rath, third secretary in the German Embassy in Paris, is shot and mortally wounded by Herschel Grynszpan, the 17 year old son of one of the deported Polish Jews. Rath dies on November 9, precipitating Kristallnacht.
Nov 9/10 - Kristallnacht - The Night of Broken Glass.
Nov 12, 1938 - Nazis fine Jews one billion marks for damages related to Kristallnacht.
Nov 15, 1938 - Jewish pupils are expelled from all non-Jewish German schools.
Dec 3, 1938 - Law for compulsory Aryanization of all Jewish businesses.
Dec 14, 1938 - Hermann Göring takes charge of resolving the "Jewish Question."



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I thought you were a reasonable person, but now you try to demean me as "his Girl Friday", which means you actually do defend Jewish Supremacism.
Well, if that's not proof of supporting "Jewish Supremacism" I don't know what is.
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Oh yeah? Maybe you need a spanking! Really though, I hope you are feeling well. Catus too - anybody heard from her lately?
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You know what?

I am gonna guess that this David is playing the meat market game, thinking he is being funny. But what he is really doing is showing how he devalues and cheapens life.

David, I only know you have a soul cos God makes everyone with one. You hide that truth very well.

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I am tempted to post a funny response to his post about spanking - but I'm not going to do that.
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Thank you, Ali. I did read David's comment; but I had to run some errands and didn't have the time to tell him that he will not get such a rise from me. I don't care how or what he thinks of me. I have everything in life that I truly value; and his blatant racist views of Blacks, African-Americans, and Jewish people do not count among them. I don't mind debating; but I do not accept hatred. David, had you spent more time reading other threads in this forum, you would see that I will even speak out against Blacks who have shown their hatred on ths forum. If you want to attack me, son; you had better think of a different way to do so.
No thanks needed hon. I deffinately heard the chuckles from all of our members here of African American decent at David's silly comment to you.

Like you said...He's full of hatred and he isn't the first person to join here, trying to start a race war towards our members.

Think we should hook him up with the Spin Doctor? Those two were made for each other.
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Which part of this historical record do you wish to refute, David and Jenifer? And on what factual documentation can you dismantle this historical record?

(It is well worth the read. And a timeline does indeed read fast, so please ALL, go to the link. )

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I actually almost posted that one yesterday myself. So thanks for doing so yourself, so I could re-read it...

I also came close to posting the links to the individual death camps, concentration camps, and work camps that gave the number of deaths in them, and what the part of those numbers represented Jewish deaths...

But talk about it being a loooooong list, to say the least...The death camps are easy...10 listed extermination camps, which incidentally, 7 of the best known of them collectively being responsible for almost half of all the Jewish deaths (2.9-3.1 million in those specific 7 camps alone). 19 of 40 concentration camps listed, but only 25 of over 1500 work camps listed. Then there was also a list of 851 sub-camps listed as well, that were affiliated/located around the death camps...Each a little death camp on their own, mostly used for specific human studies and testing, as well as camp work forces...Of which several hundred of those were temporaries that got built, moved/torn down, then rebuilt during WW2 throughout the Third Riech. Estimates of total Jewish deaths in all the camps is between 3.2-3.4 million...Conservative numbers at that.

Also, several of the work camps with lower death counts, were only transitional camps...Meaning the prisoners were held there for awhile, till sent to another concentration or death camp. So if they didn't die there, they were sent to die somewhere else.

These listings also don't include the loss of Jewish lives in the ghettos before they were shipped off to the camps, that are a part of that '6 million' figure. That alone, the figures are between 800,000 to 1.3 million estimated deaths? Before adding in the death squad raids (estimates between 1.1-1.3 million)...

The estimated total Jewish deaths being 5.1-6.2 million depending on which historian you read...60-75% of the European Jewish population wiped out systematically by the Nazis.

Of course, David is now trying to spin that the deaths in Auschwitz alone, represent the total number of Jewish deaths during WW2...So he's currently whining that 1.5 million dead in Auschwitz alone doesn't represent 6 million...

He's equally making a fuss of how Auschwitz first claimed 4 million deaths there, then reduced that number to 1.5?

Guess he doesn't know that after the news of the concentration camps hit the press, that the estimated total death count for all the camps was almost 15 million Jewish deaths? That the total was reduced to a bit over 6 million after the Nuremburgh trials, once the SS testimonies came to light that actually gave more accurate numbers of deaths. Those numbers also doesn't include the Death Squads that did routine roundups and killed the people in the streets...

If anything, it was the SS men held in trial that actually provided the information/documentation to the court, saying they had killed a bit over 6 million Jewish people...Although they admitted if they'd had the chance, they would have happily have killed more then then the earlier estimate of 15 million Jewish people.

Himmler and Hess both were recorded in the trial proceedings to have said that they felt they'd not done all they could have done in purifying the Riech of the Jewish people by killing only the little over 6 million they'd succeeded in wiping from the face of the earth. That what they'd done wasn't wrong, but needed to ensure the purity of the Aryan race.

They put the blame of the death count being so low, towards the burecratic conflicts in-house that wasn't allowing the camps to receive the additional funds/materials to do a more throughal job of genocide. They also added that because of the unpopularity of the mass roundups/shootings from the Death Squads, they had to put an end to that...Otherwise, the count could have been higher still?

Basically, rather then admit his OT was incorrect and fraudulant, now he's trying to respin it another way while still trying to say that 'less deaths means it's less important and a lie' mentality...ROTFLMAOL!

Sorry David...But ONE death camp doesn't constitute the total deaths of all the camps.

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