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Affirmative Action & Race Issues Do you feel that affirmative action should be expired, or do you feel that it should still be enforced? Defend your views on affirmative action in this forum.

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Old 01-07-2008, 03:09 PM   #141 (permalink)
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OhDear : you wish to dismantle the distinctions of, nationality, ethnicity, race, and religion in all people.

The concept of race is false. Everyone on earth is a uniquely distinct individual where no one is the same or will ever be the same. Just like Hitler, You can not fight collectivism with more collectivism, because you will be JUST LIKE HITLER!
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Old 01-07-2008, 03:25 PM   #142 (permalink)
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Jenifer,
I see you promoting the rights of the individual, the celebration of individuality. That is quite wonderful in itself.

But what do you do with the rights of those individuals who want the social structure of marriage, family, clan, tribe, nation? Religion, Class, Culture?

One way to respect individual rights is to respect the rights of individuals to gather unto themselves as each sees fit. And many individuals see it fit and of great comfort and strength, function and celebration to unite.

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Old 01-07-2008, 04:03 PM   #143 (permalink)
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Old 01-07-2008, 04:58 PM   #144 (permalink)
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OhDear : you wish to dismantle the distinctions of, nationality, ethnicity, race, and religion in all people.

The concept of race is false. Everyone on earth is a uniquely distinct individual where no one is the same or will ever be the same. Just like Hitler, You can not fight collectivism with more collectivism, because you will be JUST LIKE HITLER!

No the concept of the individual is false. You mistake the unique genetic makeup of a person with them actually being an individual. The concept of the 'individual' is peculiar to western culture. Your issue is you clearly know next to nothing about cultures other then Western Capitalism which is predicated on the concept of the 'individual' and even then when it comes to Western culture you sort of a day late and a dollar short and more then a little imperialistic whereby you only read the world by reference to the little you understand about in this instance Jewish culture. I suggest if you want to undermine Jewish belief structure you read more about Jewish people as written by Jewish people and talk to a Rabbi or something or else you are pissing in the wind
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No the concept of the individual is false. You mistake the unique genetic makeup of a person with them actually being an individual. The concept of the 'individual' is peculiar to western culture. Your issue is you clearly know next to nothing about cultures other then Western Capitalism which is predicated on the concept of the 'individual' and even then when it comes to Western culture you sort of a day late and a dollar short and more then a little imperialistic whereby you only read the world by reference to the little you understand about in this instance Jewish culture. I suggest if you want to undermine Jewish belief structure you read more about Jewish people as written by Jewish people and talk to a Rabbi or something or else you are pissing in the wind
Here, here, Gadgetory!!! That takes the historical context of what I saw, but it sure does carry more substantiation when we look at the history of civilization instead of just the free-lance and whimsical musings that my post, no doubt sounds like next to yours.
Again, great insights. Thanks for sharing.

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DH acts like and probably is a skinhead.
I see he is Australian which means unless he lives in Bondi Junction, Dover Heights (Sydney) or Caulfield or St Kilda (Melbourne) ..he has probably never met a Jewish Person..

Australians always think no-one has ever been there or knows anything about their country which allows some of them to be idiotic on the Net
Old 01-07-2008, 05:06 PM   #147 (permalink)
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Don't discount yourself Super Sage, your posts make very good sense.
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6 million people died at the hands of the Nazi not all of whom where Jews and not all of whom were in concentration camps..the transparency is you're complete lack of knowledge about the issue you're trying to disprove ..I don't care if it was 2 people killed because of their ethnicity or religious belief its still fucked up..if you want to debate an issue actually have knowledge of what you are talking about no-one thinks 6 million Jews where killed in concentration camps except morons such as yourself

but keep it coming you're an idiot and everyone loves to laugh at an idiot
Actually Gadget, not to burst your bubble or anything, but approximately 12 million people (give or take which source is giving the numbers) were killed by the Nazis...

Of those killed, half were Jewish...Hence the approximate 6 million figure.

What DH and JJ disputed at the beginning, is they believe only 270,000 Jewish people died during WW2...To them, the lie being that 6 million died was the lie...

Although because of my posts about Auschwitz alone being responsible for over 1.3 million Jewish deaths, the number being provided by the Red Cross itself, now DH claims that it was only 1.3 killed...That the only Jewish people killed were killed in Auschwitz.

Total death toll listed by groups of people killed...

5.1-6.2 million Jewish
2-3 million Russian POWs
1.5 million Politicals
600,000 Serbs
200,000+ Poles
220,000-500,000 Romas (Gypsies)
80,000-200,000 Free Masons
75,000-250,000 Disabled
7,000-16,000 Spanish POWs
3,000-9,000 Homosexuals
2,500-5,000 Jehovah Witness

If you look back a page or two, I've listed a couple of very detailed posts on the numbers used to figure out the numbers of Jewish people who died in WW2...And half of those casualties were children.

http://www.defendingthetruth.com/aff...tml#post155488 (270 000 Jews=6 million...somehow!!)


I wanted to apologize for how this reads...It reads as if the deaths were all the deaths of WW2...I'm strictly talking about the deaths caused by the Nazis by death squads and concentration camp numbers.

Not total casualties of WW2, caused by the war itself of civilian and military deaths by Nazi and Allied troops. Which is in the tens of millions of deaths.

There was about 61 million Allied losses and about 11 million Axis losses...Totalling about 72 million casualties, both military and civilian.

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Don't discount yourself Super Sage, your posts make very good sense.
Thanks, Segep. But I must say, I do like learning from all of you.

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Old 01-07-2008, 05:11 PM   #150 (permalink)
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I see he is Australian which means unless he lives in Bondi Junction, Dover Heights (Sydney) or Caulfield or St Kilda (Melbourne) ..he has probably never met a Jewish Person..

Australians always think no-one has ever been there or knows anything about their country which allows some of them to be idiotic on the Net
I suppose that explains why they are so far down under.
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