OhDear : Now in your worldview, Jenifer, do you place value on humility at all?

Did you mean humility or humanity? Either way, I should be asking you that question. The basis for a master/slaver relationship is to place no humility or value on humanity.

The basic axiom of individualism is "No one has a right to violate another's individual rights and sovereignty", requires more humility and places more value on humanity. First of all, it requires more self-control not to violate another's rights and sovereignty, than to worry about not getting caught by some external control. Second, collectivism is an automatic violation of one's individual rights and sovereignty.

Therefore, as an adult, collectivism places no humility or value on humanity. If you understand the master/slaver mentality, they actually think they are doing you a favor by controlling your life, because a child mentality is too stupid to know any better. Excuses for African slavery is, they had a better existence in slavery than living in a grass hut, bathing in cow piss, and eating their neighbor.

Now, do you understand that the bible condones slavery and you are living in slavery?

The Philosophy of Liberty

http://isil.org/resources/introduction.swf

Rrrrrrright... I suppose all the documents accounting for the numbers of Jews processed through each camp, the DOZENS of camps, where they were slaughtered enmass in a variety of ways... all those documents are forgeries...

stuff like this is laughable... it belongs on the INQUIRER cover!

to lose your life is to lose your future

brilliant

Oh man, ain't that the Gospel truth.

You forgot, to lose your liberty was to lose your present...

Then it was followed up with this statement: To lose the product of life and liberty is to lose that portion of your past that produced it.

I found that link interesting...Especially in light of what the OT was about to begin with...

In the Holocaust, the Jewish people first lost their liberty which in essence they lost their present...

The start out of the introduction states that nobody owns your life, as well as you don't own others' lives...

Yet the whole time, Nazis felt they had a right to own the lives of the Jewish people, to the extent that they removed the Jewish people's liberties and eventually their lives...In essence, attempting to destroy the portion of the past that created the Jewish people, taking away from them their present, as well as ensuring that they had no future by taking their lives...

Talk about a hypocritical link provided by JJ...I went over that link 6 times...And each time every portion of that site's introduction fit perfectly to what the situation was regarding the Holocaust and what happened to the Jewish people there.

Yea it's hilarious and I can't wait for the next piece of "evidence" lol.

But you know what's a real downer? The fact that while most of us will brush this crap off as the BS that it truly is, because we prefer to live in reality, some unfortunate impressionable souls will take this in and think to themselves, "You know, these 'historical revisionists' may be onto something...". And then a new generation of Holocaust Deniers are born.

Eisenhower, wherever you are, you nailed it.

Actually, Mike; I think the real downer is not so much that people still say things like this- but they have actually convinced themselves that this garbage is true!