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04-17-2008, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by pensacola_niceman Like Kat said, an underclass is necessary. If you want your own citizens to be of a higher class, than you must import the underclass from other nations. | Yup, that's why when you have city planners planning a diamond encrusted utopia, they always have the "affordable housing" section. Might as well say "the place for the servants".
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04-17-2008, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by fxashun Yup, that's why when you have city planners planning a diamond encrusted utopia, they always have the "affordable housing" section. Might as well say "the place for the servants". | Yup! That's the way it is. That's the way it will stay too. The only ones who truly oppose such a societal arrangement are the ones on the bottom of it. |
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04-17-2008, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by pensacola_niceman Yup! That's the way it is. That's the way it will stay too. The only ones who truly oppose such a societal arrangement are the ones on the bottom of it. | Do you want to live next to someone who just moved out of the projects on a voucher? My mother's house is in a neighborhood where the houses are being bought up and put up for rent. And many of the people are coming from the projects on vouchers. The result, two murders, police sirens all the time, kids up and down the streets yelling at all times of the day and night, and VERY unkempt yards. It's scary the change that is coming over the place.
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Originally Posted by pensacola_niceman Like Kat said, an underclass is necessary. If you want your own citizens to be of a higher class, than you must import the underclass from other nations. | sounds like what is happening here in the USA. except that in another generation they will be citizens and we will need to import new servants. and so on. |
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04-17-2008, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by fxashun Do you want to live next to someone who just moved out of the projects on a voucher? My mother's house is in a neighborhood where the houses are being bought up and put up for rent. And many of the people are coming from the projects on vouchers. The result, two murders, police sirens all the time, kids up and down the streets yelling at all times of the day and night, and VERY unkempt yards. It's scary the change that is coming over the place. | NO I wouldn't. We had this happen to us already when a bunch of Russian immigrants moved into the neighborhood. That proves that it's not just a black and white thing. |
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04-17-2008, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by fxashun Do you want to live next to someone who just moved out of the projects on a voucher? My mother's house is in a neighborhood where the houses are being bought up and put up for rent. And many of the people are coming from the projects on vouchers. The result, two murders, police sirens all the time, kids up and down the streets yelling at all times of the day and night, and VERY unkempt yards. It's scary the change that is coming over the place. | well maybe thats why city planners put in those affordable housing sections you talked about. so people who work hard like your mother dont wind up having the ghetto they worked hard to get out of moving right back in with her. |
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04-17-2008, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by pleasanthillskaren sounds like what is happening here in the USA. except that in another generation they will be citizens and we will need to import new servants. and so on. | Yes, it is happening here in the US. That's because our own lower class that live in ghettos don't generally work for a living. |
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04-17-2008, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by pleasanthillskaren well maybe thats why city planners put in those affordable housing sections you talked about. so people who work hard like your mother dont wind up having the ghetto they worked hard to get out of moving right back in with her. | Wonderful sounding idea on paper. Unfortunately it never works. When the "vouchered" poor move in, the neighborhood quickly turns to piss. |
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04-17-2008, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by pensacola_niceman Yes, it is happening here in the US. That's because our own lower class that live in ghettos don't generally work for a living. | and why do you think this is? is this the fault of others or is the fault within themselves? |
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04-17-2008, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by pleasanthillskaren well maybe thats why city planners put in those affordable housing sections you talked about. so people who work hard like your mother dont wind up having the ghetto they worked hard to get out of moving right back in with her. | Like PN said, these people ain't working. My mother is STILL working. Now she wants to move.
Depressed housing market and a neighborhood in "transition". She's in trouble.
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