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Affirmative Action & Race Issues Do you feel that affirmative action should be expired, or do you feel that it should still be enforced? Defend your views on affirmative action in this forum.

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Old 04-17-2005, 02:49 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Your view will change when you become affected by Racist Action.
Yeah, because rascism against white people is a big problem in this country
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Affirmative action has a reverse effect, in my opinion. I have a very odd view of this push towards racial equality though, and I've often been labelled a racist.

Apparently, I'm so far left, I'm right.

White people are cocky bastards; at least the ones who haven't realized that the elimination of racism just isn't possible and we're all racist... and affirmative action is just making it worse.

This is when people start calling me racist--

The truth is that white people are capable of many things that other "races" of the world aren't, but then again, LOOK AT US WHITE FOLKS. The majority of white Americans are extremely close-minded. Westerners simply aren't in touch with nature like the rest of the world seems to be. We have symbiotic relations with NOTHING, we simply use other species for our benefit, we don't work WITH them.

Take for example the Sioux "Indians"; many Sioux tribes were nomadic, they followed the buffalo where ever the heards went. They only hunted so many and performed rituals so that the heard would allow them to follow at a distance and still hunt them. Every piece of a buffalo carcass was used, absolutely nothing was left behind. That's a beautiful demonstration of a perfect symbiotic relationship. But the thing is- Native Americans (and many, many other minoritites) are more succeptable to certain diseases, but is keeps them in check! Westerners claim to have saved them by creating anti-biotics and constructing schools to teach them to be more white. We've simply ruined their culture.

(Sidenote: Antibiotics also end symbiotic relations, they are simply sythetic chemicals used to help our immune system to fight off bacteria, so instead of either being wiped out, or improving our immune systems, we consume store-bought chemicals that fight certain strains of deadly bacteria. We feel so important, but in our daydreams of muscle cars and blond girls with fake breasts, we've forgotten one thing- it's important that we keep OURSELVES in check as well.)

American whites seem to demonstrate nothing but parasitic relationships with planet Earth and all it's inhabitants. We hunt for sport, we chop old-growth forests down to build huge houses in nice, little suburbs, we dig out gigantic chunks of land to build structures simply out of vanity, and the list goes on forever.

In short- I hate white people and their pitiful attempt at creating racial equality.

Hippie bullshit? Maybe.
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No it is directly because of affirmative action. Minorities get the 1st choice over us because their 15th cousin 3 times removed uncle was a slave.
Do you know how much we outnumber minorities? It just gives them a chance in this rascist country. It barely impacts our chances.
Yes we outnumber minorities alot. But yet why is there this fact then?

Race Applied Accepted %Accepted Avg. GPA Avg. MCAT
Asian/White 4675 140 3.0% 3.79 11.6
Black/Hispanic 489 51 10.4% 3.42 9.8


In 1997, the University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) School of Medicine was three times more likely to admit an applicant if they checked the race box marked "black" or "hispanic" than if they checked "asian" or "white."

How can it be that Black/Hispanic applicants are 3 times as likely to be admitted as Asian/Whites? It can't be explained by higher academic qualifications -- on average, the "black" or "hispanic" applicants have lower grades and test scores. Despite claims of "equal opportunity," despite the U.C. Regents decision in 1995 to halt the consideration of race in admissions, the University of California clearly cared a great deal what race you were. They cared enough to triple your chances of admission if you checked the right box.

also would you like to see
Statistics on Reverse Discrimination by University of Virginia.
http://www.ceousa.org/docs/virginia2.doc


yeah great idea on AA!!!
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No it is directly because of affirmative action. Minorities get the 1st choice over us because their 15th cousin 3 times removed uncle was a slave.
Do you know how much we outnumber minorities? It just gives them a chance in this rascist country. It barely impacts our chances.
Yes we outnumber minorities alot. But yet why is there this fact then?

Race Applied Accepted %Accepted Avg. GPA Avg. MCAT
Asian/White 4675 140 3.0% 3.79 11.6
Black/Hispanic 489 51 10.4% 3.42 9.8


In 1997, the University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) School of Medicine was three times more likely to admit an applicant if they checked the race box marked "black" or "hispanic" than if they checked "asian" or "white."

How can it be that Black/Hispanic applicants are 3 times as likely to be admitted as Asian/Whites? It can't be explained by higher academic qualifications -- on average, the "black" or "hispanic" applicants have lower grades and test scores. Despite claims of "equal opportunity," despite the U.C. Regents decision in 1995 to halt the consideration of race in admissions, the University of California clearly cared a great deal what race you were. They cared enough to triple your chances of admission if you checked the right box.

also would you like to see
Statistics on Reverse Discrimination by University of Virginia.
http://www.ceousa.org/docs/virginia2.doc


yeah great idea on AA!!!

Considering how much worse blacks and minorities have it in this country compared to the white majority I think MORE of this should occur.
Old 04-18-2005, 11:01 AM   #35 (permalink)
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No it is directly because of affirmative action. Minorities get the 1st choice over us because their 15th cousin 3 times removed uncle was a slave.
Do you know how much we outnumber minorities? It just gives them a chance in this rascist country. It barely impacts our chances.
Yes we outnumber minorities alot. But yet why is there this fact then?

Race Applied Accepted %Accepted Avg. GPA Avg. MCAT
Asian/White 4675 140 3.0% 3.79 11.6
Black/Hispanic 489 51 10.4% 3.42 9.8


In 1997, the University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) School of Medicine was three times more likely to admit an applicant if they checked the race box marked "black" or "hispanic" than if they checked "asian" or "white."

How can it be that Black/Hispanic applicants are 3 times as likely to be admitted as Asian/Whites? It can't be explained by higher academic qualifications -- on average, the "black" or "hispanic" applicants have lower grades and test scores. Despite claims of "equal opportunity," despite the U.C. Regents decision in 1995 to halt the consideration of race in admissions, the University of California clearly cared a great deal what race you were. They cared enough to triple your chances of admission if you checked the right box.

also would you like to see
Statistics on Reverse Discrimination by University of Virginia.
http://www.ceousa.org/docs/virginia2.doc


yeah great idea on AA!!!

Considering how much worse blacks and minorities have it in this country compared to the white majority I think MORE of this should occur.
*shakes head* wow. Do you not realize people with better GPA's better test scores are not being accepted when their hard work means they should be accpted. Whatever that is just ignorant you think more of this should happen..... And no they don't have it 'worse'
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No it is directly because of affirmative action. Minorities get the 1st choice over us because their 15th cousin 3 times removed uncle was a slave.
Do you know how much we outnumber minorities? It just gives them a chance in this rascist country. It barely impacts our chances.
Yes we outnumber minorities alot. But yet why is there this fact then?

Race Applied Accepted %Accepted Avg. GPA Avg. MCAT
Asian/White 4675 140 3.0% 3.79 11.6
Black/Hispanic 489 51 10.4% 3.42 9.8


In 1997, the University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) School of Medicine was three times more likely to admit an applicant if they checked the race box marked "black" or "hispanic" than if they checked "asian" or "white."

How can it be that Black/Hispanic applicants are 3 times as likely to be admitted as Asian/Whites? It can't be explained by higher academic qualifications -- on average, the "black" or "hispanic" applicants have lower grades and test scores. Despite claims of "equal opportunity," despite the U.C. Regents decision in 1995 to halt the consideration of race in admissions, the University of California clearly cared a great deal what race you were. They cared enough to triple your chances of admission if you checked the right box.

also would you like to see
Statistics on Reverse Discrimination by University of Virginia.
http://www.ceousa.org/docs/virginia2.doc


yeah great idea on AA!!!

Considering how much worse blacks and minorities have it in this country compared to the white majority I think MORE of this should occur.
*shakes head* wow. Do you not realize people with better GPA's better test scores are not being accepted when their hard work means they should be accpted. Whatever that is just ignorant you think more of this should happen..... And no they don't have it 'worse'

Do you realize how rascist this country is? And do you realize that people have it worse just because of the color of their skin? And yes they do have it worse. They make less money, live shorter lives, and have a far greater risk of being hurt or killed via violence. *shakes head* wow indeed.
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No it is directly because of affirmative action. Minorities get the 1st choice over us because their 15th cousin 3 times removed uncle was a slave.
Do you know how much we outnumber minorities? It just gives them a chance in this rascist country. It barely impacts our chances.
Yes we outnumber minorities alot. But yet why is there this fact then?

Race Applied Accepted %Accepted Avg. GPA Avg. MCAT
Asian/White 4675 140 3.0% 3.79 11.6
Black/Hispanic 489 51 10.4% 3.42 9.8


In 1997, the University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) School of Medicine was three times more likely to admit an applicant if they checked the race box marked "black" or "hispanic" than if they checked "asian" or "white."

How can it be that Black/Hispanic applicants are 3 times as likely to be admitted as Asian/Whites? It can't be explained by higher academic qualifications -- on average, the "black" or "hispanic" applicants have lower grades and test scores. Despite claims of "equal opportunity," despite the U.C. Regents decision in 1995 to halt the consideration of race in admissions, the University of California clearly cared a great deal what race you were. They cared enough to triple your chances of admission if you checked the right box.

also would you like to see
Statistics on Reverse Discrimination by University of Virginia.
http://www.ceousa.org/docs/virginia2.doc


yeah great idea on AA!!!

Considering how much worse blacks and minorities have it in this country compared to the white majority I think MORE of this should occur.
*shakes head* wow. Do you not realize people with better GPA's better test scores are not being accepted when their hard work means they should be accpted. Whatever that is just ignorant you think more of this should happen..... And no they don't have it 'worse'

Do you realize how rascist this country is? And do you realize that people have it worse just because of the color of their skin? And yes they do have it worse. They make less money, live shorter lives, and have a far greater risk of being hurt or killed via violence. *shakes head* wow indeed.
Do you realize how rascist the country *used* to be? we have came along way. we ended slavery. shit that should count somewhere. and so say my great great grandpa fought against the south and for blacks does that mean me being his decendent should be penalized and not able to get into college over a black person when i great great grandpa gave his life for these people? i think not. They make less money? Work harder. Live shorter lives? we'll since black peopel are more prone to get more disease blame that on eurogenics not me. And being hurt or killed? Shit tell them to fucking get out of their gangs and stop killing each other. again not my fault.
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FBI's crime reports:

Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.

Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.

Blacks murdered, raped, robbed, or assaulted about one million whites in 1992.

In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and non-violent crimes against whites.

Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than whites under 18.

About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white.

Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1.

On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than whites.

Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods.

Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies in 1992, 31% (8.4 million) were committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by whites against blacks.

Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial.

Of the the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are black against white.

In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population.

In the last 30 years (1964-94), more than 45,000 people were killed in interracial murders compared to 38,000 killed in Korea and 58,000 in Vietnam.

Sheehan commented that the contents of his article could not possibly be published or discussed in the U.S. mainstream media.

In the last 50 years, the white part of the American population has declined from 90% to 72%. The U.S. now has about 33 million blacks and 25 million Hispanics (legal and illegal). By the year 2050, American whites will be a minority, just 49%. By 2100, whites will be 25% of the population.


Snap maybe there is a reason they don't live as long and they are in more violence. Listen to their music. They talk about shooting each other and fucking the hoes and bitoches.
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again more and more about black on black crime i think http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site....wnews/crime512 BLACK AMERICA WEB says it best.

Commentary: Black-on-Black Youth Crime is Overlooked by Our Leaders
Date: Thursday, May 13, 2004
By: Gregory Kane, BlackAmericaWeb.com

Read these names: Marcus McLain, Alexander Brown, William Thomas and Andre Mellerson. They were the four black boys shot on the grounds of Randallstown High School — located on the outskirts of Baltimore — last Friday after they left a charity basketball game.

Now forget the names. It’s not as if they’re really victims. I mean, it’s not as if anybody white, or a cop, shot them.

All four were shot when four black guys rolled up in a car, got out and started a fight with a group of other guys. None of the four mentioned above was involved in the fight. But when the guys in the car found themselves outnumbered and taking a butt-whipping, one of them headed back to the vehicle, grabbed a gun and just started shooting.

McLain, Brown, Thomas and Mellerson were hit. Thomas, a Randallstown High senior who had just been accepted on an engineering scholarship to Morgan State University in Baltimore, may be paralyzed for life.

That’s just his tough luck. The liberal leadership we blacks blindly follow — the ones who turn us on and off at their whim — don’t consider McLain, Brown, Thomas and Mellerson victims.

Do I judge our leaders — or us — too harshly? I think not.

Those liberal black leaders most certainly consider Nathaniel Jones a victim. You probably remember Jones’ name, because those leaders instructed you to remember it. He was the guy who, while on drugs, swung on a couple of Cincinnati cops last year. Jones died after two white cops tried to subdue him.

Jones was a victim our fearless liberal leaders felt was worthy of martyr status. The four boys shot at Randallstown High are just statistics. No less a figure than Rev. Jesse Jackson took up Jones’
cause, in an op-ed piece published in several papers late last year.

“(Jones),” the good reverend piously intoned in the article, “was the 18th black man to die in custody of the police since 1995. In the same period, only one white man has died.”

No one, certainly not Jackson, has bothered to ask how many young black men in Cincinnati died at the hands of other young black men since 1995, but you wouldn’t lose money if you bet it’s a lot more than 18. Jackson’s implication was clear: there was racism afoot in Cincinnati. The good reverend’s rage was palpable.

But this Negro couldn’t find his rage just one year earlier, and there was plenty for him to be outraged about. In Baltimore, Angela Dawson, her husband Carnell Dawson, and their five children — all every bit as black as Jones, and more innocent — were burned to death when someone hurled a Molotov cocktail into their house. The Dawsons had simply told drug dealers not to sling dope in front of their home.

In Milwaukee, a mob of 15 or more black teenage boys beat Charles Young Jr. — another guy who was as black as Jones — to death with shovels, baseball bats, rakes and a folding chair in late September of 2002. Neither Jackson, nor his black co-leader in reverendhood, Al Sharpton, have taken pen in hand to condemn the murderers of the Dawsons and Young.

When, shortly after Jones’ death, three black teenage boys jumped Joseph A. Harvey Jr. on a Baltimore street and stabbed him to death, Jackson and Sharpton didn’t weigh in on that one either.

Quite the contrary. When you hear these two and all too many others whimpering about the terribly high number of black men in prison, they’re expressing sympathy for the ones who murdered the Dawsons, Young and Harvey, and the quartet responsible for shooting the young men outside of Randallstown High.

Randallstown is a quiet, middle-class black suburb of Baltimore that, compared to the city’s mean streets, has a very low crime rate. After Friday’s shootings, many in Randallstown wondered how such a thing could have happened there.

Considering the misguided leaders black folks have been following for years, a better question might be posed.

How could such a thing not have happened?
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Walk a mile in their shoes and you would have a different opinion I'm sure. Or just move to an inner city and see the reality of the situation. Rascism runs rampid in this country (Still).

We have come a long way but that doesn't mean we don't have a long way to go. AA is the least we could do, since we should be helping their communities more directly to improve quality of life and reduce the violence.
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