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Old 04-18-2005, 07:27 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Walk a mile in their shoes and you would have a different opinion I'm sure. Or just move to an inner city and see the reality of the situation. Rascism runs rampid in this country (Still).

We have come a long way but that doesn't mean we don't have a long way to go. AA is the least we could do, since we should be helping their communities more directly to improve quality of life and reduce the violence.
w/e i am posting information and you are not even reading it.. And i can't walk a mile in their shoes because i am white. That is what it comes down to. And i live in Cincinnati which is prolly considered an 'inner city' and there will always be some type of rascism. And yes there is black's that hate whites. just because some white guy a long time ago hated a black guy that doesnt give a black guy to hate me now. maybe if they would stop the brainwashing from rap music who tell them to go out and shoot the west sider's or east sider's then they wouldn't be dieing off in record numbers?
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Walk a mile in their shoes and you would have a different opinion I'm sure. Or just move to an inner city and see the reality of the situation. Rascism runs rampid in this country (Still).

We have come a long way but that doesn't mean we don't have a long way to go. AA is the least we could do, since we should be helping their communities more directly to improve quality of life and reduce the violence.
w/e i am posting information and you are not even reading it.. And i can't walk a mile in their shoes because i am white. That is what it comes down to. And i live in Cincinnati which is prolly considered an 'inner city' and there will always be some type of rascism. And yes there is black's that hate whites. just because some white guy a long time ago hated a black guy that doesnt give a black guy to hate me now. maybe if they would stop the brainwashing from rap music who tell them to go out and shoot the west sider's or east sider's then they wouldn't be dieing off in record numbers?

By the types of "Facts" you quoted and the above statement you ARE one of those guys you are talking about. Just get it out. How do you really feel about African Americans?
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Walk a mile in their shoes and you would have a different opinion I'm sure. Or just move to an inner city and see the reality of the situation. Rascism runs rampid in this country (Still).

We have come a long way but that doesn't mean we don't have a long way to go. AA is the least we could do, since we should be helping their communities more directly to improve quality of life and reduce the violence.
w/e i am posting information and you are not even reading it.. And i can't walk a mile in their shoes because i am white. That is what it comes down to. And i live in Cincinnati which is prolly considered an 'inner city' and there will always be some type of rascism. And yes there is black's that hate whites. just because some white guy a long time ago hated a black guy that doesnt give a black guy to hate me now. maybe if they would stop the brainwashing from rap music who tell them to go out and shoot the west sider's or east sider's then they wouldn't be dieing off in record numbers?
You obviously don't know a stinkin' shit about rap. Well, by the generalizations you just made, I can tell you don't know shit about black culture in general.

Your facts simply don't mean a thing until you bother to learn about and respect other cultures.

And as far as I'm concerned, you're racist.
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Walk a mile in their shoes and you would have a different opinion I'm sure. Or just move to an inner city and see the reality of the situation. Rascism runs rampid in this country (Still).

We have come a long way but that doesn't mean we don't have a long way to go. AA is the least we could do, since we should be helping their communities more directly to improve quality of life and reduce the violence.
w/e i am posting information and you are not even reading it.. And i can't walk a mile in their shoes because i am white. That is what it comes down to. And i live in Cincinnati which is prolly considered an 'inner city' and there will always be some type of rascism. And yes there is black's that hate whites. just because some white guy a long time ago hated a black guy that doesnt give a black guy to hate me now. maybe if they would stop the brainwashing from rap music who tell them to go out and shoot the west sider's or east sider's then they wouldn't be dieing off in record numbers?
You obviously don't know a stinkin' shit about rap. Well, by the generalizations you just made, I can tell you don't know shit about black culture in general.

Your facts simply don't mean a thing until you bother to learn about and respect other cultures.

And as far as I'm concerned, you're racist.
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Walk a mile in their shoes and you would have a different opinion I'm sure. Or just move to an inner city and see the reality of the situation. Rascism runs rampid in this country (Still).

We have come a long way but that doesn't mean we don't have a long way to go. AA is the least we could do, since we should be helping their communities more directly to improve quality of life and reduce the violence.
w/e i am posting information and you are not even reading it.. And i can't walk a mile in their shoes because i am white. That is what it comes down to. And i live in Cincinnati which is prolly considered an 'inner city' and there will always be some type of rascism. And yes there is black's that hate whites. just because some white guy a long time ago hated a black guy that doesnt give a black guy to hate me now. maybe if they would stop the brainwashing from rap music who tell them to go out and shoot the west sider's or east sider's then they wouldn't be dieing off in record numbers?

By the types of "Facts" you quoted and the above statement you ARE one of those guys you are talking about. Just get it out. How do you really feel about African Americans?
How do i feel about African Americans? i will tell you exactly how i feel.

First of all, don't call them african americans call them either Americans or just black just like i am not called an Irish-American. Second. There are black people and then there are niggers. A black person who actually goes out and tries to get a job and doesnt depend on the government to give him everything. A nigger is someone who quits their job to go on welfare and wants handouts. But just like there are differences in black people there are differences in white people. There are white people who go out and work hard and study hard and make money. While there are white trash pieces of shit who just want to depend on the government to help support their drug and alcohol habits. Humm who else made this same argument? a black guy.

And yeah rap music is awesome!

Snoop Dogg - 20 Dollars 2 My Name

Nothing left to do, but buy some shells for my glock
Why? so I can rob every known dope spot
I got 19 dollars and 50 cents up in my pocket with what?
With this automatic rocket
Gotta have it to pop it, unlock it, and take me up a hostage
(from Da Game Is To Be Sold, Not To Be Told, Priority Records 199


Outkast - Ain't No Thang

I'd do it if I have to
bustin caps with this a heat and load it clip up after clip
I'm packin my gauge, if I feel it
The glock, the gat, the nine, the heaters
See I be bustin caps like my amp be bustin speakers
So how do you figure that Big Boi be scared to blast ya
You 'posed to be quickest draw, but man, I hail em faster
1-2-3, you need to think about the future
Before I shoot your ass and dilute your blood with lead
From my hollow tips, I'll send you to an early grave
(from Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik, La Face 1994)


Tha Eastsidaz - Another Day

How much dirt have I done
My life has just begun
I sleep with my gun
My problems weigh a ton...
Live by the gun die by the gun
(from Snoop Dogg Presents The Eastsidaz, Doggystyle Records, 2000)


Big Pun - Brave In The Heart

I'm from where the guns love to introduce theyself
Reduce your health, little bulletproofs get felt
Make way for krill, I don't play I spray for real
Blow your top with the glock, that's my favourite kill
Blaze your crib with like thirty shots
I'm already hot, but my last one is with some dirty cops
Blow a hole through your ribs just for runnin your lips
The street's a trip; either you deep or you sleep with the fish
(from Endangered Species, released posthumously, Loud 2001)

Notorious BIG - Come On

I shot dread in the head, took the bread and the landspread
Lil' Gotti got the shotty to your body
So don't resist, or you might miss Christmas
I tote guns, I make number runs
I give emcees the runs drippin
when I throw my clip in the AK, I slay from far away
Everybody hit the DECK
(from Born Again, released posthumously, Bad Boy Entertainment 1999)

C-Murder - Constantly 'N Danger

Bulletproof vest on my chest
And bulletproof windshields to catch the rest...
My money bigger, huh, so I got a bigger gun too
I keep a nine with me, if you want me come get me
You shoot first... you better hit me
I keep a close eye on a stranger...
Cause I'm constantly in danger
(from Life or Death, Priority 199

Ludacris - Cry Babies (Oh No)

I caught him with a blow to the chest
My hollow put a hole in his vest
I'm bout to send two to his dome
Cry babies go home!
I just bought some new guns my mama said "it ain't worth it"
But I'm at the shooting range just cause
practice makes perfect
(from Word of Mouf, Defjam, 2001)

2Pac - Five Deadly Venomz

I got a glock that say 'Pac run the block...
My gauge gets me... PAID
As I sit and reminisce about the old days
Hugging on my AK... getting played, hey ...
I pop a clip and grip my nine tight
Now it's on everyday could be my last day
That's why I blast on they ass as I past let the glass spray
(Interscope 1993)


oh and yeah black people aren't racist:

“Kill the white people; we gonna make them hurt; kill the white people; but buy my record first; ha, ha, ha”

“Kill d’White People”; Apache, Apache Ain’t Shit, 1993, Tommy Boy Music, Time Warner, USA.


“Niggas in the church say: kill whitey all night long. . . . the white man is the devil. . . . the CRIPS and Bloods are soldiers I’m recruiting with no dispute; drive-by shooting on this white genetic mutant. . . . let’s go and kill some rednecks. . . . Menace Clan ain’t afraid. . . . I got the .380; the homies think I’m crazy because I shot a white baby; I said; I said; I said: kill whitey all night long. . . . a nigga dumping on your white ass; fuck this rap shit, nigga, I’m gonna blast. . . . I beat a white boy to the motherfucking ground”;

“Kill Whitey”; Menace Clan, Da Hood, 1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo Trybe Records, subsidiaries of what was called Thorn EMI and now is called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.


“Bust a Glock; devils get shot. . . . when God give the word me herd like the buffalo through the neighborhood; watch me blast. . . . I’m killing more crackers than Bosnia-Herzegovina, each and everyday. . . . don’t bust until you see the whites of his eyes, the whites of his skin. . . . Louis Farrakhan . . . Bloods and CRIPS, and little old me, and we all getting ready for the enemy”

“Enemy”; Ice Cube, Lethal Injection, 1993, Priority Records, Thorn EMI; now called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.


should i go on?
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The above speaks for itself loud and clear.

I hate when old rascists defend themselves with "there are blacks and then there are niggers", like defining the two makes their rascism acceptable or even moral.
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RWE, don't blame a damn thing on hiphop (I think you're refering to hiphop when you say rap, they're actually pretty different), blame it on rich pieces of glamshit who've never spent a day in the life of.

There's true beauty in true hiphop, not that shit they play on the radio. Listen to artists like Dilated Peoples, Immortal Technique, Heiroglyphics, or Sage Francis. That's real hiphop.

Popular culture has it all wrong, man. They're exposing people to the stuff that--if Americans had ANY taste at all--they would cringe in disgust from.

You also have to realize that the majority of idiots who're actually influenced by that crap haven't spent a day in the streets; you're saying a 'nigger' is someone who lives off welfare and can't get a job or an education. Ever heard of tenements? Ghettos? Slums?

Let me educate you a little bit about American History- there was an event that took place in the 1950's called the 'White Flight'. The creation of suburbs attracted many people who grew up during the Depression/WW2 years since they were used to so little. Many young white couples started moving into these homes and created the huge, American middle class.

This growing middle class was mostly white since suburban neighborhoods started to follow the trend of not letting minority groups into their area seeing as the Jim Crow laws hadn't yet been abolished; though there were no laws saying that minority groups had to stay out, there was still the problem of social segregation.

Since this large white migration, the circulation of money through urban cities started to slow down and the tax base in these cities began to drop, thus creating ghettos, where all these minority groups were stuck in because of the lack of acceptance or inability to survive anywhere else.

These ghettos have just been growing poorer and poorer as suburban houses get bigger and fancier. You have to realize that the people living in these areas have a lot of trouble getting out because that's all they can afford and if they can afford school, they're not going to go because it interferes with their work schedule which will cut off the flow of money.

In short- these are people who're stuck between a rock and a hard place, so give them a little more respect.

Okay, done.
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Chris Rock - "most infamously his "Niggas vs. Black People" routine from the "Bring the Pain" HBO "

Yeah looks like an old racist... morons....

and what i posted was rap, not really hiphop
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Chris Rock - "most infamously his "Niggas vs. Black People" routine from the "Bring the Pain" HBO "

Yeah looks like an old racist... morons....

and what i posted was rap, not really hiphop

There is a big difference: Chris Rock is black (and funny). You are rascist.
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Chris Rock - "most infamously his "Niggas vs. Black People" routine from the "Bring the Pain" HBO "

Yeah looks like an old racist... morons....

and what i posted was rap, not really hiphop

There is a big difference: Chris Rock is black (and funny). You are rascist.
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