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Affirmative Action & Race Issues Do you feel that affirmative action should be expired, or do you feel that it should still be enforced? Defend your views on affirmative action in this forum.

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Old 04-25-2005, 12:11 PM   #61 (permalink)
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what i was showing you that you seemed to not see was it was not just a comedian who had these viewpoints and you said i shouldn't use a comedian so there are a bunch of other people who are being serious when they are explaining it.. and i think everyone should have equal rights not more rights or special rights. I believe in what Martin Luther King wanted, not what Malcom X wanted..

Blacks in this country have LESS than what the rest of us have (less income, lower lifespan, worse education {school falling apart}, more crime, etc). That is the whole F'n point of AA. They DONT have it equal like you say you want them to, yet you whine about AA.

How do you really feel about blacks? Is it AA you really have a problem with? Because what King Jr. wanted is NOT a reality whatsoever.
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Old 04-25-2005, 05:54 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Blacks in this country have LESS than what the rest of us have (less income, lower lifespan, worse education {school falling apart}, more crime, etc). That is the whole F'n point of AA. They DONT have it equal like you say you want them to, yet you whine about AA.

How do you really feel about blacks? Is it AA you really have a problem with? Because what King Jr. wanted is NOT a reality whatsoever.

Here is the information Sheehan uncovered in his analysis of the FBI's crime reports:

Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.
Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.
Blacks murdered, raped, robbed, or assaulted about one million whites in 1992.
In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and non-violent crimes against whites.
Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than whites under 18.
About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white.
Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1.
On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than whites.
Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods.
Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies in 1992, 31% (8.4 million) were committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by whites against blacks.
Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial.
Of the the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are black against white.
In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population.
In the last 30 years (1964-94), more than 45,000 people were killed in interracial murders compared to 38,000 killed in Korea and 58,000 in Vietnam.


how am i suppose to stop that? maybe like i stated earlier they should stop listneing to the music that tells them to shoot each other and commit crimes? think that might have a little impact? i do... and i already told you how i felt toward black people and you spit it back in my face as racist propaganda, even though i then posted where other people have said the exact same thing as me and them being both white and black..
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what i was showing you that you seemed to not see was it was not just a comedian who had these viewpoints and you said i shouldn't use a comedian so there are a bunch of other people who are being serious when they are explaining it.. and i think everyone should have equal rights not more rights or special rights. I believe in what Martin Luther King wanted, not what Malcom X wanted..
Malcom X didn't want mindless thuggery.

By the way, you proved you point. I still hate the word 'nigger' though. It's inflamatory, improper and it makes whoever says it sound stupid. It's like using bad language because you have nothing intelligent to say, reason becomes skewed and suddenly people just thing you're a jerk.

People can't just be trash... They have to be white trash because they're white. They have to be niggers because they're black.

But I don't think any minorities' common hatred towards white people is unjustified.
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what i was showing you that you seemed to not see was it was not just a comedian who had these viewpoints and you said i shouldn't use a comedian so there are a bunch of other people who are being serious when they are explaining it.. and i think everyone should have equal rights not more rights or special rights. I believe in what Martin Luther King wanted, not what Malcom X wanted..
Malcom X didn't want mindless thuggery.

By the way, you proved you point. I still hate the word 'nigger' though. It's inflamatory, improper and it makes whoever says it sound stupid. It's like using bad language because you have nothing intelligent to say, reason becomes skewed and suddenly people just thing you're a jerk.

People can't just be trash... They have to be white trash because they're white. They have to be niggers because they're black.

But I don't think any minorities' common hatred towards white people is unjustified.
I know Malcom X wanted more rights and wanted to use violence to get them, while the king wanted equal rights and not use violence. I understand your hatred for the word 'nigger' but i will use the term redneck or cracker, if you will, to describe the white guy.. ANd people think you are a jerk because they start jumping to conclusion and assuming things, and then they just stop listening, kinda what you and the other guy did tee hee , and they have to be crackers cause they are white..
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>Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.

There are mostly white people in this country! This number would decrease if there was equality in this country.

>Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.

Because there are mostly white people in this country. This number would also decrease if there was equality in this country.


In fact all of your statistics are jaded in a racist manner. You are taking them too literally. They reflect the treatment of blacks in this country.

The solution is to make their situation equal to that of white people. Until that happens you will continue to see how they are treated reflected back onto our society.

Care to share the link where you found those stats? Probably a pretty bias link.
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>Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.

There are mostly white people in this country! This number would decrease if there was equality in this country.

>Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.

Because there are mostly white people in this country. This number would also decrease if there was equality in this country.


In fact all of your statistics are jaded in a racist manner. You are taking them too literally. They reflect the treatment of blacks in this country.

The solution is to make their situation equal to that of white people. Until that happens you will continue to see how they are treated reflected back onto our society.

Care to share the link where you found those stats? Probably a pretty bias link.
Paul Sheehan, an Australian reporter, dug out the following information for an article in the Sydney Morning Herald , May 2, 1995. Sheehan based his statistics on crime data compiled by the FBI and partially reported each year in The FBI Uniform Crime Report . These reports can be researched at the FBI's website, www.fbi.gov.


from that guy.. And they murder more and there are less of them.. how does that work?

http://www.heretical.com/miscella/sheehan.html
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>Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.

There are mostly white people in this country! This number would decrease if there was equality in this country.

>Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.

Because there are mostly white people in this country. This number would also decrease if there was equality in this country.


In fact all of your statistics are jaded in a racist manner. You are taking them too literally. They reflect the treatment of blacks in this country.

The solution is to make their situation equal to that of white people. Until that happens you will continue to see how they are treated reflected back onto our society.

Care to share the link where you found those stats? Probably a pretty bias link.
Paul Sheehan, an Australian reporter, dug out the following information for an article in the Sydney Morning Herald , May 2, 1995. Sheehan based his statistics on crime data compiled by the FBI and partially reported each year in The FBI Uniform Crime Report . These reports can be researched at the FBI's website, www.fbi.gov.


from that guy.. And they murder more and there are less of them.. how does that work?

http://www.heretical.com/miscella/sheehan.html

What I'm trying to tell you here RWE (and you aren't understanding) is that you need to take it a step farther then those statistics and ask yourself why it is happening in the first place. Are you that out of touch with how blacks are treated in this country? Go to an inner city middle school or high school where only blacks attend and you might understand.
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>Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.

There are mostly white people in this country! This number would decrease if there was equality in this country.

>Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.

Because there are mostly white people in this country. This number would also decrease if there was equality in this country.


In fact all of your statistics are jaded in a racist manner. You are taking them too literally. They reflect the treatment of blacks in this country.

The solution is to make their situation equal to that of white people. Until that happens you will continue to see how they are treated reflected back onto our society.

Care to share the link where you found those stats? Probably a pretty bias link.
Paul Sheehan, an Australian reporter, dug out the following information for an article in the Sydney Morning Herald , May 2, 1995. Sheehan based his statistics on crime data compiled by the FBI and partially reported each year in The FBI Uniform Crime Report . These reports can be researched at the FBI's website, www.fbi.gov.


from that guy.. And they murder more and there are less of them.. how does that work?

http://www.heretical.com/miscella/sheehan.html

What I'm trying to tell you here RWE (and you aren't understanding) is that you need to take it a step farther then those statistics and ask yourself why it is happening in the first place. Are you that out of touch with how blacks are treated in this country? Go to an inner city middle school or high school where only blacks attend and you might understand.
It is happening because other black (niggers) are telling them to do it, the rappers who are saying shoot each other and steal the money and fuck the hoes and bitches.. come on dude thinka bout it. And i live in cincinnati which is a city where there is a large majority of black people and they are treated by their actions.. High crime so more policeing.. what are yo trying to get at?
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>Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.

There are mostly white people in this country! This number would decrease if there was equality in this country.

>Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.

Because there are mostly white people in this country. This number would also decrease if there was equality in this country.


In fact all of your statistics are jaded in a racist manner. You are taking them too literally. They reflect the treatment of blacks in this country.

The solution is to make their situation equal to that of white people. Until that happens you will continue to see how they are treated reflected back onto our society.

Care to share the link where you found those stats? Probably a pretty bias link.
Paul Sheehan, an Australian reporter, dug out the following information for an article in the Sydney Morning Herald , May 2, 1995. Sheehan based his statistics on crime data compiled by the FBI and partially reported each year in The FBI Uniform Crime Report . These reports can be researched at the FBI's website, www.fbi.gov.


from that guy.. And they murder more and there are less of them.. how does that work?

http://www.heretical.com/miscella/sheehan.html

What I'm trying to tell you here RWE (and you aren't understanding) is that you need to take it a step farther then those statistics and ask yourself why it is happening in the first place. Are you that out of touch with how blacks are treated in this country? Go to an inner city middle school or high school where only blacks attend and you might understand.
It is happening because other black (niggers) are telling them to do it, the rappers who are saying shoot each other and steal the money and fuck the hoes and bitches.. come on dude thinka bout it. And i live in cincinnati which is a city where there is a large majority of black people and they are treated by their actions.. High crime so more policeing.. what are yo trying to get at?

So let me get this straight. You are blaming music for their behavior? Are you very young? Like 17? I'm sorry but you don't have very developed views about life and society.
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I can't believe what I am reading! Although I see both points here I don't think it's entirely smart to use the term nigg** in your discussions. You can say something else in that meaning but I don't want to be passing through racsist terms on this forum.

I'm sure ridinhighspeeds would like his forums debates much cleaner than this. Come on guys.
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