To the moderator:

If you have sent me e-mails warning that I will be banned if I post on this subject again I probably wont have received them. The person who stalks me round the Internet is a hacker who regularly intercepts and/or deletes my e-mails. If you look at my original thread, you will see that there is ample proof in the form of links, that I am being stalked. I will leave it up to your sense of fairness in how you deal with this.

It is a pity that you deleted my other thread about David Myatt, because I am not a troll as has been suggested. I am actually interested in the truth surrounding a complex subject, as the following post ought to clearly demonstrate. If you want to censor this that is up to you, but I will keep searching.

I was shown this quote, attributed to Myatt, by someone on another message board:



"To make things perfectly clear - I reject nationalism, racism, racial separation and the ideas and concepts which underlie them and the behaviour and attitudes which accompanies a belief in them."



However, I discovered a posting on a racist website saying the following about Myatt:



June 2nd, 2006

#2 Rhadley Posts: n/a Default Quote: Originally Posted by Pontiac

Quote:
"This is the guy who thinks we would do better if we converted to the philosophy he has invented, 'the numinous way' where 'honor' is more important than 'race' "


"That story is based on old stuff - as other thread here on VNN have mentioned. Myatt is committed to The Numinous Way, and I suggest you check out his own websites rather than relying on reports in ZOG newspapers. Anyhow, Myatt's conversion to Islam was a tactic to fight ZOG, that's all. This is well known, even by some of his former Comrades in the NSM and Combat 18. Check out Myatt's own site at David Myatt: Islam - The Perfect Way of Life and especially this article: David Myatt: From Neo-Nazi to Muslim which is about Myatt's rejection of Islam.

Quote: According to the latest Statement for Journalists that you issued, dated January of this year, you have committed yourself to The Numinous Way. Does this mean that you have finally abandoned Islam?

"The Numinous Way is a Way of Life, and this Way is quite different from, and indeed incompatible with, Islam, especially in relation to the concepts of the folk and Nature as living-beings, and the belief that we have a duty to aid, and evolve, these living beings which are themselves but emanations of The Cosmic Being. In addition, the ethics of The Numinous Way - which establish what is right, and wrong and from which we must derive our laws - are totally different from the ethics of Islam, based as the ethics of The Numinous Way are upon personal honour, empathy. Part of this empathy is a recognition of ourselves as nexions, as a connexion between our folk, Nature and The Cosmic Being. So yes, I am not a Muslim. I have striven to explain the fundamental differences in my essay The Theology of The Numinous Way, which is a re-write of my older essay The Theology of National-Socialism. I have re-written that essay because The Numinous Way of Folk Culture differs not only from Islam, but also from National-Socialism. For The Numinous Way does not depend on National-Socialism in any way. Rather, it is National-Socialism which depends - or should depend - on the ethics and the essence of The Numinous Way..... "

There's also: Statement by Abd al-Aziz ibn Myatt which is Myatt's comment on the matter. End of Quote.



The poster seems very confident that his links contain evidence to support his claims, yet when I looked there was nothing in Myatt's texts to support these assertions. In addition, the vital tripod link has been deleted. It is entirely possible that this is a malicious quote put about by these racists, but as you can see it has been there since 2006 without being challenged directly. If the quote is genuine, then D. Myatt needs to refute the racist's assertions publicly and in very clear terms. It is vital that this is done directly on the racist websites themselves, so that these people can be left in no doubt as to where Mr. Myatt stands. If he does not go directly to the source of these rumours, they will always coexist in parallel to his own statements, creating confusion about his real intentions.

A clear statement for all to see, please.

1) Are the quotations about Myatt giving up on Islam true or false?

2) Will Myatt go to this racist message board and challenge these lies directly?
If Myatt really has rejected racism I would think he is probably less than pleased that he is being misrepresented on racist message boards in this way. Here is the link to the posts:

David Myatt, "Numinous Way" inventor, converts to Islam - Vanguard News Network Forum


So in conclusion, I would say to our moderator. This is not a flame war of my making and I am not a troll. Radical Islam is a hugely important topic at the moment, not least, because of the well publicized horrific events of 9-11 in the U.S. and 7-7 in the U.K. If there is indeed a link between certain types of religious extremism - which results in the death of thousands of people - and the far Right, it needs to be discussed not hushed up. I invite the moderator's comments on whether this is a suitable topic for discussion.

Myatt must refute what is being said about him on the National Socialist boards themselves. His own, more easily accessible public sites, simply will not do.

So, you've started a new thread about your Myatt obsession.

Your threads often get deleted for a good reason - you're a troll and a stalker - who under various and often new user names goes around forums, year after year, making posts about David Myatt, all of which posts are designed to spread your rather biased views and opinions and assumptions about him.

Often, you pretend to be "doing some research" and pretend to ask "polite questions" all the while giving links to "prove" your view and opinions about Myatt.

Interestingly, all you're doing is adding to the Myatt mythos and making more people curious about him, some of whom may no doubt end up being interested in and possibly influenced by his various writings.

So, why not take a hint and cease your ceaseless campaign. Then, it's quite possible far fewer people would know about him or get interested in him.

Interesting idea - this stalker/troll might in fact be a Myatt fan in disguise (maybe even Myatt himself) posting all these messages to get people interested in the man.

BTW, Myatt's issued many public statements in the past three years denouncing his former nazi and racist views. Gee, you must have missed them all (Islamic Awakening, Sheikh Qaradawi's website, blah blah blah).

Some links to give more info (and more assumptions and theories and opinions) about David Myatt:

1) About Myatt

Seems to be biased toward accepting the Julie Wright/Searchlight thesis about Myatt

2) Abd al-Aziz ibn Myatt: The Beauty of Islam

Myatt's Islamist writings

3) The Promethean Quest of David Myatt

More Myatt orientated stuff, including some of his older political writings. (Note the disclaimer.)

Now, let's see how long before this thread gets deleted. Not long, methinks.

Raffy9 old friend, we will have to agree to disagree on the precise definitions of 'independent source' and 'stalking'!