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Old 08-29-2008, 08:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'll accept any material evidence that can not be disputed.
That is rather vague, do you have an example or a category of material evidence. Anything can be disputed, whether or not the disputing party's arguments have any merit. By that standard there is no evidence for you, not for anything, as all things may be disputed. Moreover, a dispute is only evidence that at least one person disagrees with what is being posited, nothing more.
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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That is rather vague, do you have an example or a category of material evidence. Anything can be disputed, whether or not the disputing party's arguments have any merit. By that standard there is no evidence for you, not for anything, as all things may be disputed. Moreover, a dispute is only evidence that at least one person disagrees with what is being posited, nothing more.
Throw it out on the table, I'll let you know.
Old 08-29-2008, 09:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
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In other words, Solon, Wow would like you to do his homework for him.

And then tell you that you are wrong, regardless of what you present.
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Old 08-29-2008, 09:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Throw it out on the table, I'll let you know.
That isn't how this will work. Just from our brief exchange we clearly have different standards of evidence and understandings of what that means. I don't know you well enough to predict what will be compelling to you, however you are in a position to know such things. Rather than waste my time on things you could simply tell me what does and does not constitute evidence for you. We also have the issue of disputes, I have already told you that everything can be disputed, if you standard has not changed based upon that then there is no point in continuing. There is no evidence that you would accept that does not already confirm a personal belief.

Is there anything that could convince you? Are you simply going to look for how you can maintain your current beliefs or are you going to take as objective a look as you can at what I present? If you do not answer these questions clearly in your next post I will assume you are merely dragging this out to troll and I will not respond to you in the thread any longer.
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Old 08-29-2008, 09:40 PM   #15 (permalink)
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In other words, Solon, Wow would like you to do his homework for him.

And then tell you that you are wrong, regardless of what you present.
I would prefer to let Wow speak for himself rather than put words in his mouth. I understand you have had your differences in other threads, but I would prefer to keep this exchange on topic as best I am able and not have it devolve into the rather common flame/ad hominem attack thread.
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In all seriousness, sir, I wish you the very best of luck.
I admire your optimism.
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Old 08-29-2008, 10:50 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Considering Darwinism is a modern theory only concluded in recent years how can one explain racism in earlier times?

Anthropologists believe cultures evolve at differing rates based on environmental factors. They evolve in worship of spirits to multiple gods and then onto a single god. Those with a higher god consider those with a lesser god as inferior. For example American slaves, when captured or bought worshiped spirits, American Indians worshiped spirits but some South American cultures had evolved to a level of culture where they worshiped a single god. Christians consider themselves a superior race but consider non whites of their base to be equal if they share the belief of the superior god, outsiders who believe in lower gods like Haitians or some residents of Louisiana that worship voodoo are often considered heathens as are Africans or American Indians believing in spirits or shamans. God level seems to be the basis of racism, but if offered to learn the superior god and accepted the heathen is lifted up to an equal status. This works with Christians and Muslims but I'm not so sure about other major religions.
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Ah Zack....just out of curiosity...what South AMerican cultures worshiped a single god before the advent of Christianity onto their shores?
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Anthropologists believe cultures evolve at differing rates based on environmental factors. .

Really? what makes you think that?
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Please prove to me that evolution is nothing more than conjecture.
“Evolution is often considered as something unexpected. Wouldn’t it be more natural, some antievolutionists ask, if everything would always stay the same? Perhaps this was a valid question before we understood genetics, but it is no longer. In fact, the way organisms are structured, evolution is inevitable. Each organism, even the simplest bacterium, has a genome, consisting of thousands to many millions of base pairs. Observation has established that each base pair is subject to occasional mutation. Different populations have different mutations, and if they are isolated from each other, these populations inevitably become more different from each other from generation to generation. Even this simplest of all possible scenarios represents evolution. If one adds further biological processes, such as recombination and selection, the rate of evolution accelerates exponentially. Therefore, the mere fact of the existence of genetic programs makes the assumption of a stationary world impossible. Evolution is thus a plain fact, not a conjecture or assumption.

It is very questionable whether the term “evolutionary theory” should be used any longer. That evolution has occurred and takes place all the time is a fact so overwhelmingly established that is has become irrational to call it a theory. To be sure, there are particular evolutionary theories such as those of common descent, origin of life, gradualism, speciation, and natural selection, but scientific arguments about conflicting theories concerning these topics do not in any way affect the basic conclusion that evolution as such is a fact. It has taken place ever since the origin of life.”


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