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Old 05-13-2006, 04:01 PM   #51 (permalink)
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The human fetus can't survive without a host, the human teenager can.
Since when? Lots of human fetuses have been born prematurely. Is it your position that in some cases a human fetus cannot survive on its own away from the mother, that it is okay to kill it? What is your point?

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Old 05-13-2006, 05:10 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I wouldn't be against the killing of an adult human if they required a host to survive within.
Again, with the already failed effort to equate a human being with a parasite or a cancer growth.
It didn't work the first time, hev, and it's still not working three days later


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I wouldn't consider it murder if it had to reside inside another born human to survive. That is an internal choice of the host and people have every right to do whatever they want with their bodies.
You consistently ignore the glaring fact that there are two individual bodies involved... not to mention that existence INSIDE the mother's body is the necessary condition for survival of most animals, including humans.
Of course, you would have to ignore that, wouldn't you, in order to continue putting forward this paradigm of the prenate as a parasite.

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Sure it is killing, but I don't find it immoral and I don't find it to be murder. Do you consider food animals to be murdered?
You are addressing a quote from me, and I've already told you at least five times that I have not called abortion "murder". Do you really suppose the absurdity of your argument has not been picked up by now?
Many of us don't eat meat - that has nothing whatsoever to do with the abortion of our own species.
Your continued efforts to make an equivalence between meat eating and abortion do not work because:

1. The vast majority of people consider humans to be in a completely separate category from other animals;
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2. Meat eating has never been against the law in this or any country. By contrast, abortion was first not even discussed and then started being restricted or criminalized at the discretion of each state until 1973 -
and even today the majority of Americans would vote to at least restrict abortion, if their right to vote on this issue had not been snatched away by the judiciary.

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This came up during John Roberts supreme court confirmation.



Specter deployed a huge chart – but with print a bit too small for TV purposes – which lists cases in which the court upheld Roe.

So "upheld" as opposed to "challenged". Sorry.
Apparently you are unfamiliar with the intricacies of case law. Read Casey, as a good example, and please tell me you noticed the subtle change in emphasis that was made vs. the original Roe.

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The human fetus can't survive without a host, the human teenager can.
:: grin ::

I didn't notice this comment from you the first time, hev...

What a lovely sentiment for Mother's Day !
I'm sure our world will be a much warmer and more loving place when people start thinking your way and "host of a parasite" becomes their observation whenever they notice a pregnant woman.

Going away for the weekend...see y'all Sunday night or Monday !
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Happy Host Day tomorrow to all you hosts out there.
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I eat fetuses for breakfast. Argghhghhg


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Do you eat human fetuses or animal fetuses?
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Do you eat human fetuses or animal fetuses?

You should try my morning shake. It gives you a leg up!

So your personal morals dictate that it is ok to kill animals? How convenient.
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How come you have carnivorous teeth? Humans are natural carnivores as well as vegetarians. You can see that by our teeth. I don't think morality enters into what I would naturally eat according to my species. What makes you think that?

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