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Old 08-06-2006, 03:41 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Why not? There's a building in Ann Arbor that is used by both a church and a synagogue. See http://www.templebethemeth.org/tbe/about_tbe
I don't know if I'd like that. Personally, I like that my synagogue is autonomous. I don't have anything against Christians, but it's our community, and our accomplishments, and our goddamned potluck...

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Anyway, I don't want to seem racist, but there's something to be said for having one's own church. I'm not saying that segregation is good, but if a community wants to be autonomous in some respects, they should be able to. It shouldn't be considered a mark against anyone.

It's probably about denomination and community, not being oppressed by "the man" or whatnot.
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I can't see why people would want to segregate themselves by choice. I feel economic reasons are probably at work here. And those economic discrepancies between white and blacks are caused by what? Choice? I think not.

You guys feel differently?
Are the church fees higher at the white church or something? Why would economic factors affect a denomination, or what church a person goes to? I suppose location and convenience could play a role, but it's not like anyone has been turned away from a church for being poor... Well... Maybe someone has, but that would easily be the crappiest church ever, and I would advocate it being burned to the ground for being populated by assholes.
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Old 08-06-2006, 03:46 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I agree. Blacks are gaining a better life all the time, especially those who turn their backs on the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons who want to blame the white man. There are many better black leaders who never get any press because they tell the blacks to forge their own way instead of demanding someone do something for them. That is how you make yourself a success, by forging your own path, not by demanding favors or handouts. That is why every election more blacks and minorities are voting for the republicans.
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Yes, because clearly, many black people are poor and Democrats because of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Why didn't anyone see it before?

This minority is staying a Democrat as long as the Republican Party is the party of sticking it's big government nose into my personal business. I can buy my own damned food. There are way more reasons to be a Democrat than just wanting a handout.
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Those blacks and their handouts huh?
Yes, and the dems are the plantation owners who only visit the black churces when it is election time to get their vote by promising more handouts.
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Are the church fees higher at the white church or something? Why would economic factors affect a denomination, or what church a person goes to? I suppose location and convenience could play a role, but it's not like anyone has been turned away from a church for being poor... Well... Maybe someone has, but that would easily be the crappiest church ever, and I would advocate it being burned to the ground for being populated by assholes.
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Yes, and the dems are the plantation owners who only visit the black churces when it is election time to get their vote by promising more handouts.

I really do want some of that juice.
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Once again we see the old trump card when it comes to race relations, the old economic factor. Why are these churches sgregated in the first place, well if you believe Hev it has to be because of the poor black folks economic problems.

Unfortunately for Hev, his failure to grasp the simple facts of the situation lead to his downfall. Why are the churches segregated??? Perhaps it has to do with the simple fact that they are of different denominations??? Does that ring a bell?? I guess for someone who hates religion as much as Hev, it would not. For him all religion is the same....a terrible thing!

So much for an actual argument based upon fact....instead we see assumption, and you know what they say about when you assume you make an *ss of yourself.

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I don't know if I'd like that. Personally, I like that my synagogue is autonomous. I don't have anything against Christians, but it's our community, and our accomplishments, and our goddamned potluck...

Ahem.

Anyway, I don't want to seem racist, but there's something to be said for having one's own church. I'm not saying that segregation is good, but if a community wants to be autonomous in some respects, they should be able to. It shouldn't be considered a mark against anyone.

It's probably about denomination and community, not being oppressed by "the man" or whatnot.
You're correct. Everything is racist to some people because they are racist minded, so that makes them the real racist in my opinion.
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I really do want some of that juice.
You can't deny the truth so you make a sarcastic remark. Then you have blame me for the quality of debate going down. There's a word for that.
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Why would a denomination be limited to a race?
Gee, I don't know. Why don't you visit a mosque and ask them why most of the people that attend are of Arab descent? Why don't you attend a Minnesota Lutheran Church and ask them why most of their ancestors came from Sweden, Finland, and Germany?
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