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Old 02-07-2007, 04:08 AM   #21 (permalink)
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See, there you go again. You keep claiming that the Bible is a book of fiction written by man, yet, every scientific attempt to prove this belief has been proven wrong!!!!!!!!! Historically, medically, scientifically and archeaologically the Bible has been proved to be the most accurate book, despite being 2000 years or plus old. Reality does not support your contention!!!!!!!!!!
Who knows perhaps if you keep repeating it enough times eventually more will start to believe it..

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So faith is no longer needed? God has been proven?
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Old 02-07-2007, 04:24 AM   #22 (permalink)
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HAH! So white people are the victims now? I guess everyone's a victim in today's society .

To deny the legacy of vicious white supremacy inexorably intertwined in this country's history, and indeed it's still-alive undertones would be to deny reality of the contributions to the arrested development of American democracy and to deny the importance of humility and national self-reflection in a democratic society.

But to deny the fact and the extremes to which the White Western Society went to end slavery is to deny the very same things. Britain sailed the seas to end slavery, the United States fought a civil war. Furthermore to claim in today's society that only those of the white race can be racist is to deny racism altogether. Racism is prejudice against an individual based upon the individual's race, period. Any other requirements make the claim null and void.

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Old 02-07-2007, 07:12 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I never said white people were to blame or that we should not be sensitive to white folks. I simply said that the cutout featured on Malcolm in the Middle was racist and could never be put up in a store in real life.

It would be like putting up a cutout of an Orthodox Jewish person with wads of cash in their hands at a bank to push loans.
did not say you did, I am talking about this idea of being nice to blacks because of the slave trade..all race's at one time were slaves, even whites, so we as a nation shouldn't be sensitive about anything to do with slave. I have many black friends and they don't like to use slavery as a crutch..they just want to be treated like man..
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HAH! So white people are the victims now? I guess everyone's a victim in today's society .

To deny the legacy of vicious white supremacy inexorably intertwined in this country's history, and indeed it's still-alive undertones would be to deny reality of the contributions to the arrested development of American democracy and to deny the importance of humility and national self-reflection in a democratic society.
I never said the white's were victims,are you on crack?.but if it make you feel better to blame all the whites for what is your down fall...well go ahead ..we can take it,

But tell me, just how did America get all these slaves without the help of other black tribes ?
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I never said the white's were victims,are you on crack?.but if it make you feel better to blame all the whites for what is your down fall...well go ahead ..we can take it,

But tell me, just how did America get all these slaves without the help of other black tribes ?
Katzinisky is an ultra-liberal, socialist, university student. So yes, everything that's wrong in America is the fault of middle-class, heterosexual white men.

Didn't you already know that? Come on!
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did not say you did, I am talking about this idea of being nice to blacks because of the slave trade..all race's at one time were slaves, even whites, so we as a nation shouldn't be sensitive about anything to do with slave. I have many black friends and they don't like to use slavery as a crutch..they just want to be treated like man..

It isn't about being nice to anyone. It is about NOT being mean to everyone.
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Old 02-07-2007, 11:33 AM   #27 (permalink)
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But to deny the fact and the extremes to which the White Western Society went to end slavery is to deny the very same things. Britain sailed the seas to end slavery, the United States fought a civil war. Furthermore to claim in today's society that only those of the white race can be racist is to deny racism altogether. Racism is prejudice against an individual based upon the individual's race, period. Any other requirements make the claim null and void.
I do not deny that racism can go both ways.

And I do not deny what a few whites went through to end slavery. I think it's highly naive, however, to think that whites ended racism and slavery. The civil war wasn't fought over slavery. It was over a number of things, including the preservation of the union and state's rights. The union winning the war obviously boosted the end of slavery quicker, but union soldiers weren't fighting over ending slavery. Racism in this country ended, and a relative public conscience and respect for other races only emerged after a civil rights campaign led by African-American leaders.

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Katzinisky is an ultra-liberal, socialist, university student. So yes, everything that's wrong in America is the fault of middle-class, heterosexual white men.

Didn't you already know that? Come on!
You have showed us that your stupidity and immaturity goes to no limits here today.

First of all, I'm socialist, so all the problems are the fault of the middle class? How retarded are you?

And second of all, illustrating your complete and utter lack of any form of maturity or ability to debate the issues, you deface me and insult me in your avatar. If this isn't the last straw that finally pushes you into being banned along with your butt buddy Alias, I think I've lost all faith in the administration of this forum.

Not to mention you're only embarrassing yourself by putting a Nazi symbol on someone who is socialist. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense!
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Old 02-07-2007, 11:40 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I never said the white's were victims,are you on crack?.but if it make you feel better to blame all the whites for what is your down fall...well go ahead ..we can take it,

But tell me, just how did America get all these slaves without the help of other black tribes ?
It was your contention that people aren't racially sensitive to whites, and that white people that have it real bad don't get any sensitivity as a counterpoint to arguments against white racism. This is putting whites in a victimized light.

And what do mean by "my downfall"?

And your third comment is laughable at best. The slave traders weren't bad, they weren't racist! People 'helped' them!
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You have showed us that your stupidity and immaturity goes to no limits here today.

First of all, I'm socialist, so all the problems are the fault of the middle class? How retarded are you?

And second of all, illustrating your complete and utter lack of any form of maturity or ability to debate the issues, you deface me and insult me in your avatar. If this isn't the last straw that finally pushes you into being banned along with your butt buddy Alias, I think I've lost all faith in the administration of this forum.

Not to mention you're only embarrassing yourself by putting a Nazi symbol on someone who is socialist. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense!
I think I'm going to cry now.


Didn't YOU deface the picture of Che Guevera? You do NOT have any rights to it, nor do you own the picture.

Get over yourself, little boy.

If I decide to alter the picture of Che Guevera - as you did - that is no concern of yours.


Now, as to being an ignorant little socialist college boy, your ignorant idealistic views speak for themselves.


And yes, your cries for the banning and censorship of anybody who doesn't agree with you PROVE what a narrow-minded little cry-baby you are.


Grow up or move to Venezuela.

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I think I'm going to cry now.
You would.

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Didn't YOU deface the picture of Che Guevera? You do NOT have any rights to it, nor do you own the picture.
I do not claim to have rights, nor ownership of the picture of Che. I don't see how this has any relevance to defacing me. I didn't alter a picture of Che, nor did I keep his face. I started from scratch.

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Get over yourself, little boy.
Get some maturity, old man.

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If I decide to alter the picture of Che Guevera - as you did - that is no concern of yours.
That is a picture of me, you bloody moron, NOT Che. It is ALL of the concern of mine.


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Now, as to being an ignorant little socialist college boy, your ignorant idealistic views speak for themselves.
They may say things in your demented head, but I assure you that you don't understand the concepts of socialism at all. Especially if you label it with a Nazi symbol. It's not any more idealistic (and indeed it's less ignorant) than your failed Reaganism, or lassez-faire which I'm sure you love.

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And yes, your cries for the banning and censorship of anybody who doesn't agree with you PROVE what a narrow-minded little cry-baby you are.
My petitioning for your banning isn't because you disagree with me, how could you remain so ignorant of this? My petitioning for your banning is because you directly deface and insult me, and quite frankly you troll. Your move in your avatar was obviously to get me mad. Something that usually offers immediate banning in most forums. But the length that you have stayed on this forum (indeed the length that alias has stayed on this forum), unfortunately speaks volumes about the incompetence (or maybe bias?) of the forum administration.

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Grow up or move to Venezuela.
Oh, I've grown up. I can't say so about you now that you've displayed the distant lengths of your immaturity here today. And no thanks, I love my country.
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