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Affirmative Action & Race Issues Do you feel that affirmative action should be expired, or do you feel that it should still be enforced? Defend your views on affirmative action in this forum.

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Old 08-10-2005, 11:48 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Maybe I can reword this a little bit...

Do you think it's fair that the student got into med school with a C+ average and a lower IQ score than the other student because of his race??

I just understand how this can be fair. Maybe you guys can help explain how this is fair.
Well, I don't think anyone is getting into med schools with C+ averages, but I know what you're trying to say. Do I think it's fair? I think I've made myself pretty clear on this: No.
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Old 08-10-2005, 11:50 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Its a joke
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Is discriminating really a greater good for the whole? I think not. I thought we set this racist bullshit behind us years ago, but no the left continues to bring it back. Republicans = Racist my ass.
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Old 08-10-2005, 11:51 PM   #33 (permalink)
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than who do you think it discriminates against?? i hope you dont think it discriminates against the minorities, because it is designed to help them out, so who else left is there to discriminate against?? THE MAJORITY?? and the majority is...... DRUM ROLL PLEASE!!!

THE WHITE POPULATION!!! DING DING

WHAT DO HAVE FOR HIM JOHNNY!??!
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Old 08-11-2005, 12:04 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Look through college books. I just went through the process. Look at the percentages of races for all of the colleges. You will start to notice some trends. There are always more white people than anybody else. Why call affirmative action discrimination when the actual process of selecting applicants for students or jobs is discrimination in of itself. If you don't get a job or you don't get into a certain school, at some point or another you were discrimnated from the rest of the group for some reason. All you're crying about is something you can't change, which is the past. Affirmative action, while stupid and evil, is necessary because of the injustice, racism, and discrimination in our country's past. Fifty years ago many African Americans were still fighting just to vote! Conservatives are just completely being arrogant white trash by thinking that minorities are just as equal as whites in this country. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Until everyone in this country has equal opportunity to succeed from start to finish (which to the right's dismay and apparent shock does not exist), we will have to have awful programs like affirmative action.
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Is discriminating really a greater good for the whole? I think not. I thought we set this racist bullshit behind us years ago, but no the left continues to bring it back. Republicans = Racist my ass.
Are you kidding? This post is laughable....
how is it laughable its true except for the about 90 percent of "I thought we set this racist bullshit behind us years ago".
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than who do you think it discriminates against?? i hope you dont think it discriminates against the minorities, because it is designed to help them out, so who else left is there to discriminate against?? THE MAJORITY?? and the majority is...... DRUM ROLL PLEASE!!!

THE WHITE POPULATION!!! DING DING

WHAT DO HAVE FOR HIM JOHNNY!??!
Dude, white people are doing fine. Nobody knows what the hell you're talking about.
Not ALL or most due to AA, even though AA hurts a small percentage of the white pop. that small amount of people still count.
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but that is discrimination based on your not working as hard as the other people that DID get in. when AA is discrimination based on a stupid thing such as the color of your skin.
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Look through college books. I just went through the process. Look at the percentages of races for all of the colleges. You will start to notice some trends. There are always more white people than anybody else. Why call affirmative action discrimination when the actual process of selecting applicants for students or jobs is discrimination in of itself. If you don't get a job or you don't get into a certain school, at some point or another you were discrimnated from the rest of the group for some reason. All you're crying about is something you can't change, which is the past. Affirmative action, while stupid and evil, is necessary because of the injustice, racism, and discrimination in our country's past. Fifty years ago many African Americans were still fighting just to vote! Conservatives are just completely being arrogant white trash by thinking that minorities are just as equal as whites in this country. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Until everyone in this country has equal opportunity to succeed from start to finish (which to the right's dismay and apparent shock does not exist), we will have to have awful programs like affirmative action.

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Look through college books. I just went through the process. Look at the percentages of races for all of the colleges. You will start to notice some trends. There are always more white people than anybody else. Why call affirmative action discrimination when the actual process of selecting applicants for students or jobs is discrimination in of itself. If you don't get a job or you don't get into a certain school, at some point or another you were discrimnated from the rest of the group for some reason. All you're crying about is something you can't change, which is the past. Affirmative action, while stupid and evil, is necessary because of the injustice, racism, and discrimination in our country's past. Fifty years ago many African Americans were still fighting just to vote! Conservatives are just completely being arrogant white trash by thinking that minorities are just as equal as whites in this country. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Until everyone in this country has equal opportunity to succeed from start to finish (which to the right's dismay and apparent shock does not exist), we will have to have awful programs like affirmative action.

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Re: Its a joke
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Its a joke. It is just reverse racism.
Affirmative action isn't reverse racism, it's a pathetic attempt to offer some sort of retribution to colored people living in America for all the injustice they've been done. It's a disgusting way to show concern for the colored community in America, and if anything, it's an insult to them.
What we owe them for something that happened many years ago? Yes, it was cruel and plain wrong but how is affirmative action a step in the right direction? And yes it IS reverse racism. To say that a white man cannot get a job because a black man applied for it IS racism.
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