| Affirmative Action & Race Issues Do you feel that affirmative action should be expired, or do you feel that it should still be enforced? Defend your views on affirmative action in this forum. |
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Originally Posted by vharlow Lots of elderly and retired folks do watch CSPAN and know more about what's going on in American politics than people on this forum do. | Vharlow. I have been trying to stay out of this Affirmative Action bs,
due to the fact that this subject can turn into a deep racist issue.
However I have to dis-agree with the part of your post where you said
in words The Retired & Elderly knows more about what's going on in
America Politics (First of all Politic issues can lead to a racist shout-out),
and you continue to say Then the people on this forum do (That's crap).
If anything the Elders can tell us about Racism & discrimination back
in their times, but don't talk me that NO ONE on here haven't had a
experience with Racism or Discrimination, and you know yourself like
everyone of us know that Affirmative Action was removed because
some of you was claiming that Affirmative Action was taking away
your rights.
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Originally Posted by Olifant It's very ironic that blacks complain about whites killing them by methods that are available to all and owned by anyone (no restrictions) such as cigarettes. And while this guy may be MORE extreme for the US or whatever it's pretty obvious fools believe a lot of black leaders in the US that the white man keeps them down. Ironically they complain that the white man attacks them or something but in reality blacks cause more crimes in the US than anyone else
Olifant your above quote that you posted is way off base. Ironic that many
of us Blacks complain? We have the rights to complain just like you White
folks do, but to say to kill all you white folks that will never happen in
this world, and besides it would take to long to wipe out a half of million
whites (not including the offsprings and next of kin).
Can't yo see that history is repeating itself? First we was complaining,
and now you WHITES is complaining. This S**t is dead and old as horse
s**t, and what needs to happen is for everyone to try to live together. |
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Originally Posted by PoliticalParalegal Vharlow. I have been trying to stay out of this Affirmative Action bs,
due to the fact that this subject can turn into a deep racist issue.
However I have to dis-agree with the part of your post where you said
in words The Retired & Elderly knows more about what's going on in
America Politics (First of all Politic issues can lead to a racist shout-out),
and you continue to say Then the people on this forum do (That's crap). | I'd love to agree with you dear, but here, you see more stuff about pornography and masterbation than about politics. Notice, how much actual discussion have you found about the biggest thing on the news these days, immigration bill Congress has before it now? Quote:
If anything the Elders can tell us about Racism & discrimination back
in their times, but don't talk me that NO ONE on here haven't had a
experience with Racism or Discrimination, and you know yourself like
everyone of us know that Affirmative Action was removed because
some of you was claiming that Affirmative Action was taking away
your rights.
| Affirmative action programs still exist in many venues. Affirmative action didn't only benefit blacks, but women as well. It would be one thing to claim affirmative action was all bad. Surely that's not the case. What is the case is that the people standing up to end Affirmative Action programs are some of those who benefitted by them, and felt looked down upon as less than equal because of it. "Oh, he's only here because of a quota, or he's only here because he's black!" That sort of thing doesn't at all make equality a reality.
Many of those lobbying against affirmative action in college admissions were people like Ward Connerly, black himself, who was sick of the notion that blacks needed special help. that was counterproductive as far as bring blacks into their full potential in school as well as business.
Where affirmative action programs have been voted away, blacks compete on a level playing field, and have GAINED the RESPECT of those around them, because of it. YOu cannot discount the fact that there are many brilliant blacks in all walks of life now here in America and they aren't considered inferior in most places. Where they DID gain their job from affirmative action, they aren't looked upon as equal. I don't think anyone would say that the current Secretary of State got there because she needed special help to get to school, any more than you would say Colin Powell got where he got because he had special help.
In many areas of life today, blacks enjoy full equality based on their individual accomplishments, same as anyone else. Of course there will always be an underclass, but there are more whites in that underclass than blacks, and that's a fact.
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Originally Posted by Olifant It's very ironic that blacks complain about whites killing them by methods that are available to all and owned by anyone (no restrictions) such as cigarettes. And while this guy may be MORE extreme for the US or whatever it's pretty obvious fools believe a lot of black leaders in the US that the white man keeps them down. Ironically they complain that the white man attacks them or something but in reality blacks cause more crimes in the US than anyone else
Olifant your above quote that you posted is way off base. Ironic that many
of us Blacks complain? We have the rights to complain just like you White
folks do, but to say to kill all you white folks that will never happen in
this world, and besides it would take to long to wipe out a half of million
whites (not including the offsprings and next of kin).
Can't yo see that history is repeating itself? First we was complaining,
and now you WHITES is complaining. This S**t is dead and old as horse
s**t, and what needs to happen is for everyone to try to live together.[/quote]
I very much like your conclusions here. Everyone should try to live together. We recently visited the Capital, in Washington, DC and my granddaughter was proud to point out the bust of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and knew what he stood for. WE should all learn to live together.
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Originally Posted by mytmouse57 "That's right. Too many cultures all trying to blend in only causes problems. If you want to be a British or American citizen, you have to subscribe to the culture of that nation and quit demanding rights you don't have. If you do not like British or American culture - leave!"
"American Culture" is an oxymoron. | I agree. We did such a good job accepting The American Indian Culture. |
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Originally Posted by billybobama I agree. We did such a good job accepting The American Indian Culture. | We might have accepted the American Indian Culture, but did they
accept America's way of living? As a matter of fact We had no other
choice, but to accept how they lived, and again did we not turn on
the same people to takeover their land?
I don't believe in killing unless really necessary. Then its have to be a
life threating situation.
Also understand that people just don't up and talk about killing Whites
for no reason at all, and yes a statement like that does show hate.
VHarlow, Thanks for a realistic post, and I did enjoy reading it.
Jaaaman...Nice post to Olifant |
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Originally Posted by PoliticalParalegal We might have accepted the American Indian Culture, but did they
accept America's way of living? As a matter of fact We had no other
choice, but to accept how they lived, and again did we not turn on
the same people to takeover their land?
I don't believe in killing unless really necessary. Then its have to be a
life threating situation.
Also understand that people just don't up and talk about killing Whites
for no reason at all, and yes a statement like that does show hate.
VHarlow, Thanks for a realistic post, and I did enjoy reading it.
Jaaaman...Nice post to Olifant | We committed genocide on the Native American Indians and stole all their land. |
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Originally Posted by billybobama We committed genocide on the Native American Indians and stole all their land. | Billybobama, you are 100% right, and yet there is people who say
they gave us the land. You posted a quote earler that said
We did such a good job accepting The American Indian Culture.
So was that a set up for the genocide?
Now to return to this oddball subject. I would like to know if
this subject someone's guilt trip, or what is the exact motive
behind this question? |
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Originally Posted by PoliticalParalegal Billybobama, you are 100% right, and yet there is people who say
they gave us the land. You posted a quote earler that said
We did such a good job accepting The American Indian Culture.
So was that a set up for the genocide?
Now to return to this oddball subject. I would like to know if
this subject someone's guilt trip, or what is the exact motive
behind this question? | I was responding to some self appointed academic who gave some long blabbering statement about land ownership. With my statement I proved he was a total fool. I was simply reflecting historical facts. |
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Originally Posted by vharlow I'd love to agree with you dear, but here, you see more stuff about pornography and masterbation than about politics. Notice, how much actual discussion have you found about the biggest thing on the news these days, immigration bill Congress has before it now?
Affirmative action programs still exist in many venues. Affirmative action didn't only benefit blacks, but women as well. It would be one thing to claim affirmative action was all bad. Surely that's not the case. What is the case is that the people standing up to end Affirmative Action programs are some of those who benefitted by them, and felt looked down upon as less than equal because of it. "Oh, he's only here because of a quota, or he's only here because he's black!" That sort of thing doesn't at all make equality a reality.
Many of those lobbying against affirmative action in college admissions were people like Ward Connerly, black himself, who was sick of the notion that blacks needed special help. that was counterproductive as far as bring blacks into their full potential in school as well as business.
Where affirmative action programs have been voted away, blacks compete on a level playing field, and have GAINED the RESPECT of those around them, because of it. YOu cannot discount the fact that there are many brilliant blacks in all walks of life now here in America and they aren't considered inferior in most places. Where they DID gain their job from affirmative action, they aren't looked upon as equal. I don't think anyone would say that the current Secretary of State got there because she needed special help to get to school, any more than you would say Colin Powell got where he got because he had special help.
In many areas of life today, blacks enjoy full equality based on their individual accomplishments, same as anyone else. Of course there will always be an underclass, but there are more whites in that underclass than blacks, and that's a fact.
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Originally Posted by Olifant It's very ironic that blacks complain about whites killing them by methods that are available to all and owned by anyone (no restrictions) such as cigarettes. And while this guy may be MORE extreme for the US or whatever it's pretty obvious fools believe a lot of black leaders in the US that the white man keeps them down. Ironically they complain that the white man attacks them or something but in reality blacks cause more crimes in the US than anyone else
Olifant your above quote that you posted is way off base. Ironic that many
of us Blacks complain? We have the rights to complain just like you White
folks do, but to say to kill all you white folks that will never happen in
this world, and besides it would take to long to wipe out a half of million
whites (not including the offsprings and next of kin).
Can't yo see that history is repeating itself? First we was complaining,
and now you WHITES is complaining. This S**t is dead and old as horse
s**t, and what needs to happen is for everyone to try to live together. | I very much like your conclusions here. Everyone should try to live together. We recently visited the Capital, in Washington, DC and my granddaughter was proud to point out the bust of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and knew what he stood for. WE should all learn to live together.[/quote]
Ms V. Sorry for the late reply, and I just want to say thanks for your post. |
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Originally Posted by garysher If you really want to know who's shagging who in Hollywood then it's vital reading.
Otherwise it's quite useful for lighting fires | LMAO IMO, white people do not understand racism. As for whats his name, I don't think he means what he said literally. He probably had a negative experience from people in the KKK, and wanted to piss them off. I can understand why he and many others would have an "out to get me atitude", considering the economic/social position. I was/am persecuted too, but I don't quite understand his statements.
To expand on this, the wealthy do seem to be profiting of the killing of the less fortunate. Money and cultural status matter more than race, IMO.
This guy's statements could fit in well in some sort of comical show, it is quite outrageous.
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Originally Posted by RidinHighSpeeds | I noticed something, my computer is slower, so the video runs slower. You can actually see just how much hate is in this guy's face. |
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