Defending the Truth

No - I was just pointing out historical fact. I am talking about slavery at all different times in hitory all over the globe. This is a fact. I am not talking about getting paid. I am talking slaves. Some societies even made slaves fight and kill each other for entertainment. Today people like Ken Lay support sex slavery in Sai Pan. I just find your knowledge of slavery to very small and narrow. I can appreciate your passion, but passion without knowledge accomplishes nothing. Why not spend some of your passion ending the slavery that exist today?

How in the hell is my knowledge small and narrow?
When you are talking about the past history of my
people. I have NEVER read anywhere that whites was
slaves.

How can I spread some of my knowledge (passion).
When people like you would burn a cross on my lawn?
modern day slavery will NEVER end. So its seems to
me that you're the one who needs to take a look at
yourself....not me.

I'm going to drop off of this thread. You two obviously have some issues you both need to work on. I can only ask that you refrain from the name-calling and again, to concentrate your knowledge and passion to solving instead of blaming.

Now you have reverted to all you have left. Ranting and lying. Every Race has been subject to slavery over human history. Of course slavery is wrong and evil, but having this chip on your shoulder accomplishes nothing. Like I said, If you would do some in depth research I think you would be shocked at who is involved in the human slave trade today. I think the most vulnerable group of people who are subjected to slavery today are children. Get out there and do something about it.

Nuttyjoe - Thanks for Butting Out. Go play with your toys.

The first story in this thread pointed to something that seems to fade out. why isn't this story in the news? the following is a story written by Christopher Plante

Reade Seligmann, Collin Finnerty and David Evans are household names because of a “crime” that never happened.

Channon Christian and Hugh Christopher Newsom were victims of a horrible crime that most certainly did happen, but for some reason, their names wouldn’t ring a bell with the average American, no matter how well informed.

The Duke University lacrosse team’s falsely accused troika had their young lives disrupted and good names dragged through the national media mud for more than a year based on evidence that was suspect almost from the start. The national media took great pride in figuratively lynching the three students because they are white, privileged and went to a prestigious school. It didn’t matter that the case had crumbled -- that the media were left with a mentally unstable accuser and a corrupt, power-abusing, race-baiting, liberal, “rogue” prosecutor. To many, the three young men were still the bad guys.

The underlying narrative is that Dukies, Enron, Halliburton, George W. Bush, and mainstream America are all the same. They are “the problem..” They’re racist, sexist, “homophobic,” and they get away with it. The Duke case affirmed this premise. The fact that no crime was ever committed seemed unimportant. The frenzy in the national media served its purpose. For more than a year, they were the bad guys

In the absence of an agenda, why would this story have the resonance it had in the MSM? Was it really the alleged “crime” itself that drew the news-sharks to the smell of blood in the water? No. It was the socio-political (i.e., liberal agenda) factors.

If it had actually been the “crime” that drove the coverage, then the people of Tennessee would have been overwhelmed last January by an invading army of reporters coming to cover a terrible real crime there.

On January 6th, 2007 a double murder was committed in Knoxville that would make Dirty Harry throw up. It has many of the elements that the Duke not-a-rape story had. It has race, and class and gender, as well as rape -- but made more horrific by murder. A terrible injustice had been committed against innocent, helpless people at the hands of vicious thugs.

On that night, 21-year-old Channon Christian, and her boyfriend, 23-year-old Hugh Christopher Newsom were carjacked in Knoxville by three thugs. Their attackers were sadly not satisfied with the Toyota 4-Runner that they commandeered at gunpoint. They kidnapped the young couple and took them to the house where one of the perps lived. They were joined by a fourth man and a woman. They proceeded to commit the stomach-churning crimes.

All four men are charged with the anal rape of Christopher Newsom. They did so in the presence of Channon Christian. They then shot him to death, wrapped him in bedding, soaked him in gasoline and set him on fire. He was the lucky one.

Channon Christian was a senior at the University of Tennessee. According to the charges and a source close to the investigation, she was repeatedly gang raped by the four men -- vaginally, anally and orally. Before she died, her murderers poured a household cleaner down her throat, apparently in an effort to kill the DNA they had placed there. She was left to die, either from the bleeding caused “by the tearing,” or from asphyxiation. Knoxville officials won’t say.

It was several days before the police found her body. She had been stuffed into a garbage can in the house. According to a story posted on the WATE T.V. News web site, she was, “in five separate dark trash bags.”

The four men and the woman were eventually arrested. They are all black. Christian and Newsom were white. Two of the murderers had prior felony convictions.

So why would the national media treat America to full-immersion coverage of the Duke not-a-rape case, while burying this horrible story? Certainly the editorial yardstick here is not the nature of the crime or the Knoxville murders would easily supercede the Duke not-a-rape. The appalling truth is that the railroading of the Duke students served an ideological purpose, and the Knoxville case does not.

The news media’s collective decision to studiously ignore the Knoxville horror reveals their consistent practice of burying stories whose facts conflict with their established narratives. You don’t hear much good out of Iraq but Paris Hilton’s DUI gets more attention by far than the Knoxville horror. It’s politics, not news.

In “newsroom-think,” giving the Knoxville story the coverage it merits would serve only to reinforce negative notions and contribute to hurtful stereotypes.

Any editor in any major newsroom that showed the poor judgment to push the Knoxville story would be accused, or at least suspected, of racism by their peers. So it doesn’t happen. It’s not as if they sit around the newsroom and openly conspire. They don’t have to. The rules for this sort of thing were laid down years ago. They all know how the game is played. These are the institutional and cultural norms. There is very little dissent.

Importantly, although it is unarticulated, pursuing this story would not contribute to the broader liberal social narrative as the Duke story did. It wouldn’t be another example of white racist violence, as was the case when the media focused extraordinary attention on terrible murder of a black man named James Byrd who was dragged to death in Jasper, Texas by three sick white racists. I’m not arguing that was not a legitimate story: it was. But if it is legitimate for the media is to burn the name of James Byrd into the national consciousness, then why not the name of Channon Christian? Is it because we are not certain that her murderers used racial slurs during the commission of their crime?

Calculated or not, the fact is that the news media’s obsessive focus on stories that fall into the “America bad” category -- to the exclusion of stories that may conflict with their narrative serves only to misrepresent the broader realities of our society.

Like it or not, the demonization of mainstream, establishment America is perceived in newsrooms as legitimate. It is also -- coincidentally -- the goal of the liberal left. On the planet “News,” the perpetrators of this hideous crime in Knoxville can’t be vilified because they have been pre-designated as “victims.” The Dukies on the other hand are ideally suited for vilification because they represent “the establishment” and he “power structure” and are therefore pre-designated as “victimizers.”

The narrative is there to convince us that, “this is who we really are.” It is not.

While the national news media was advancing the agenda by destroying Don Imus for uttering five insulting syllables (“nappy-headed hoes”), they were ignoring this terrifying Knoxville story because it doesn’t contribute to the narrative.

While they were hanging on Duke prosecutor Mike Nifong’s every self-serving and duplicitous devious word, they were ignoring this terrible crime.

Once you view the media product through this prism, it all makes sense again. It doesn’t make it right, but it makes sense. And we can continue to expect blitzkrieg coverage of stories that advance their talking points.

Now back to the latest on Paris Hilton, followed by an update on Natalee Holloway. But that’s a discussion for another day.

Excuse me Joe? I hope that you have losted your mind by telling me
that I have issues? When Billy is the one in denial, and all I am doing is
objecting his non senses.

The problem here on the Damn internet is a underground
racist movement. Posters come on leaving comments that
will make a person speak out against that crap, and then
(someone) like you Joe should direct your point straight
to Billy..

I do not have no issues, but if you don't like what I am saying
to Billyobama because he is wrong...then leave, and by you
leave you are supporting Billy's non-senses.

Now see how he is talking to you, and as far as I am
concerned you leave won't stop nothing. However
believe me I can hang with BillyObama

Billy.. You are lying..show me where Whites was in slavery by a
Black man? Now in the 1950's your white women became hooked
to being pimped by a Black guy, but that only happened because
the White woman allowed that, and back then to now its called
White Slavery.

You can call is a chip on my shoulder if you like, due to the
fact that I HATE what happened to my people, and if you do
not like my comeback that's to bad. I bet Billy you are one of
them who is against Affirmative Action. Because your attitute
speaks for itself.

In closing, You are right about the children. So my question
to you is.....What will you contribute to the children learning?
Also you need a mind change yourself before you can help
anyone else. (I am ready for pt # 2) Billy.

This is going back a ways, but how about the Hebrews being enslaved by the Egyptians?

Really!!!!! Another sign to justify Whites was slaves too? Damn
how many years ago was that Lady? I know I wasn't born then was
you? I can't talk about waaay back then, due to the fact that I
only know by reading, and everything I read I don't believe.

To me your comment is just another way to skip the fact that
Blacks was slaves. So I guess you are telling me in your slick
style that the Egyptians (Black), the Hebrews are (White), and
before Whites took Blacks as slaves...Blacks held Whites as
slaves? is that your point?

On this thread I see people like to post long ass drawn out stories,
but stories and facts with experience is completely different.
Now we are living in 2007 not back in the Hebrew/Egyptian time,
and racism is still alive and well. Blacks may not be in chains, but
we are in invisible chairs so to say, and if anyone should say that
Blacks are free...would you believe that?

Oh, for God's sake, get a sense of humor, would you?

And maybe if blacks would stop making themselves out to be such victims all the time they could break their own damn chains. Perhaps you need to take a lesson from Bill Cosby.

Bill Cosby to Blacks: Stop Blaming 'The White Man' -- 07/02/2004

Chicago (CNSNews.com) - Bill Cosby pleaded with blacks to stop blaming the "white man" for their problems on Thursday, and he reiterated his harsh critique of the current state of African-American culture.

"It is almost analgesic to talk about what the white man is doing against us, and it keeps a person frozen in their seat. It keeps you frozen in your hole that you are sitting in to point up and say, 'That's the reason why I am here.' We need to stop this," Cosby said in an address before Jesse Jackson's 33rd Annual Rainbow/PUSH Coalition conference in Chicago.

The 66-year-old Cosby struck an introspective tone. "There is a time, ladies and gentlemen, when we have to turn the mirror around," he told the crowd of 500 people at the Sheraton hotel.
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The entertainer has been at the center of a racially charged controversy since May when he ridiculed the poor grammar of some blacks. "I can't even talk the way these people talk, 'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is' ... and I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk," Cosby said in Washington, D.C. on May 17, at an event marking the anniversary of the Brown v. Board of Education desegregation ruling.

On Thursday, Cosby urged blacks to take personal responsibility for their lives, and he hinted that social welfare programs may be having unintended consequences for African-Americans.

"The housing project was set up for you to move in, move up, and move out," he said.



And as far as racism goes, yes, it is out there. Terrible but true. And I've seen it bad from blacks, too.

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