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Old 07-25-2007, 12:25 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Oh, for God's sake, get a sense of humor, would you?

And maybe if blacks would stop making themselves out to be such victims all the time they could break their own damn chains. Perhaps you need to take a lesson from Bill Cosby.

Bill Cosby to Blacks: Stop Blaming 'The White Man' -- 07/02/2004

Chicago (CNSNews.com) - Bill Cosby pleaded with blacks to stop blaming the "white man" for their problems on Thursday, and he reiterated his harsh critique of the current state of African-American culture.

"It is almost analgesic to talk about what the white man is doing against us, and it keeps a person frozen in their seat. It keeps you frozen in your hole that you are sitting in to point up and say, 'That's the reason why I am here.' We need to stop this," Cosby said in an address before Jesse Jackson's 33rd Annual Rainbow/PUSH Coalition conference in Chicago.

The 66-year-old Cosby struck an introspective tone. "There is a time, ladies and gentlemen, when we have to turn the mirror around," he told the crowd of 500 people at the Sheraton hotel.
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The entertainer has been at the center of a racially charged controversy since May when he ridiculed the poor grammar of some blacks. "I can't even talk the way these people talk, 'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is' ... and I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk," Cosby said in Washington, D.C. on May 17, at an event marking the anniversary of the Brown v. Board of Education desegregation ruling.

On Thursday, Cosby urged blacks to take personal responsibility for their lives, and he hinted that social welfare programs may be having unintended consequences for African-Americans.

"The housing project was set up for you to move in, move up, and move out," he said.



And as far as racism goes, yes, it is out there. Terrible but true. And I've seen it bad from blacks, too.

pER

You seem to always want to reverse things don't you Lady?
I take racism and discrimination seriously, and you don't
like it to bad. That's one of the major problems most Blacks
have allowing (people like you making jokes,), and be grinning
while you are dogging their a*** in a unique way.

I can't stand Bill Cosby, due to the fact that he's your kinda
showshine boy, and that's why you whites love his farts.
I bet you don't admire Al Sharpton or Louis Farrakhan like
you do Bill Corsby.

What do you mean by...you seen it from Blacks too?
Hell Yeah I bet you have seen Blacks dis respect you whites,
but have any of you took the time out to think how to help
stop racism?, and by your posts the answer would be...NO.

You Whites is some strange acting people, but yet you
are not worth killing, and the sooner as MY people under
stand that the better off we will be (Regardless to the past)

Its easy for Bill to say Stop blaming the White man, but
what he should have said what....Whites should respect
Blacks, or try coming together.

In closing, How can you talk Lady, when in your area of the
state is nothing but Klans and skinheads, and believe me we
don't play that crap here in Detroit. You keep on listening to
Bill Cosby, and Bill do not give a damn about Blacks in
Public Housing or anything else concerning Blacks.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:31 PM   #72 (permalink)
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You seem to always want to reverse things don't you Lady?
I take racism and discrimination seriously, and you don't
like it to bad. That's one of the major problems most Blacks
have allowing (people like you making jokes,), and be grinning
while you are dogging their a*** in a unique way.

I can't stand Bill Cosby, due to the fact that he's your kinda
showshine boy, and that's why you whites love his farts.
I bet you don't admire Al Sharpton or Louis Farrakhan like
you do Bill Corsby.

What do you mean by...you seen it from Blacks too?
Hell Yeah I bet you have seen Blacks dis respect you whites,
but have any of you took the time out to think how to help
stop racism?, and by your posts the answer would be...NO.

You Whites is some strange acting people, but yet you
are not worth killing, and the sooner as MY people under
stand that the better off we will be (Regardless to the past)

Its easy for Bill to say Stop blaming the White man, but
what he should have said what....Whites should respect
Blacks, or try coming together.

In closing, How can you talk Lady, when in your area of the
state is nothing but Klans and skinheads, and believe me we
don't play that crap here in Detroit. You keep on listening to
Bill Cosby, and Bill do not give a damn about Blacks in
Public Housing or anything else concerning Blacks.
When you can learn to speak English I will answer you.

Oh, and BTW, Jesse Jackson and Greg Mathis agree with Bill Cosby.

And your classification of 'you whites' is racist, but I suppose you are not intelligent enough to understand that.

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Old 07-25-2007, 01:16 PM   #73 (permalink)
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When you can learn to speak English I will answer you.

Oh, and BTW, Jesse Jackson and Greg Mathis agree with Bill Cosby.

And your classification of 'you whites' is racist, but I suppose you are not intelligent enough to understand that.
Knot, it isn't worth talking to PP. He supports racism against whites hon. He just doesn't get the fact that racism period is wrong, no matter who it's aimed at.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:22 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Knot, it isn't worth talking to PP. He supports racism against whites hon. He just doesn't get the fact that racism period is wrong, no matter who it's aimed at.
Yes, we all know that racism only exists against African-Americans...

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Old 07-25-2007, 08:57 PM   #75 (permalink)
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When you can learn to speak English I will answer you.
Oh, and BTW, Jesse Jackson and Greg Mathis agree with Bill Cosby.
And your classification of 'you whites' is racist, but I suppose you are not intelligent enough to understand that
I do not have to understand nothing you are talking me.
Also You should stop faking like you don't understand
what I am saying, due to the fact that if you didn't you
would not be replying to me.

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Knot, it isn't worth talking to PP. He supports racism against whites hon. He just doesn't get the fact that racism period is wrong, no matter who it's aimed at.
Now for your information I do have senses enough to know
racism is wrong, and that's I teach about it, and preach
about it. My suggestion is to worrie about your own front
lawn before worrying about mine. I am going to continue
talking about Racism as long as I live.

If you want me to stop talking about racism..offer a solution
or shut-up.
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:26 AM   #76 (permalink)
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I do not have to understand nothing you are talking me.
Also You should stop faking like you don't understand
what I am saying, due to the fact that if you didn't you
would not be replying to me.



Now for your information I do have senses enough to know
racism is wrong, and that's I teach about it, and preach
about it. My suggestion is to worrie about your own front
lawn before worrying about mine. I am going to continue
talking about Racism as long as I live.

If you want me to stop talking about racism..offer a solution
or shut-up.
No darling, you don't. Anytime racism is brought up in regards to whites being treated badly, you either ignore it or count it as 'unimportant'. The ONLY racism you'll comment on that's 'bad' is when it's towards African Americans.

In fact, you've went so far as to tell both Knot and myself, when we've brought up experiencing racism towards ourselves, that we should suck it up, 'too bad', and then ask for examples of whites being slaves then dismiss it cause it contridicts your fixation/claims that 'blacks were/are the only slaves'.

You want to say that we're (as in whites period, which you direct your hatred towards those of us here that are white) the racists, but the fact is you come across more of a racist then those you accuse of being such. To you it's 'blacks against whites' when in reality it's just stupid people who have chips on their shoulders trying to paint those they oppose as 'the bad guys'.

Personally, I lump you and Billy in the same catagory. Neither one of you want to resolve societies problems. Both of you just want to blame and antagonize others while not taking any personal responsibility for your own negative actions/pre-set assumptions towards others.

You haven't given one example of a solution. All you've done is point fingers at whites for anything you deem as 'socially wrong'. Just as Billy points fingers at 'republicans' and 'faciasts'.
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Yeah where the hell is Al Sharpton after something like this is said...
Wow, this guy is a nut.

-White people want to kill all black people? (huh?)

-International plantations? (zuh?)

-All white people are plantation owners? (I don't think my backyard is that big...)

-We have to exterminate white people off the face of the planet? (WTF)

Why is anyone taking this guy seriously; he's a bigot, a racist, the black David Duke. You could probably find the white version of this kind of lunacy on Stornfront.

How about this, racism is wrong. Period. No excuses. Doesn't matter if it's white-on-black, black-on-white, etc., etc., it's just wrong. Bigotry is wrong, prejudice is wrong. Calling for the extermination of a race is beyond incorrigible, and disturbing.
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-White people want to kill all black people? (huh?)
At least...they did. Some still do...but I'm at a loss when it comes to what he is talking about. Even though it might be understandable in the wake of exploitation of third world countries, the ignoring of Africa, and especially Katrina and New Orleans, it's still an ill-conceived presumption.

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-International plantations? (zuh?)
As far as I know he's probably talking about the exploitation and subjugation of the poor, which generally the black American population happen to be a significant part. Plantations I assume to be the ghettos and inner-city.

Although its formation and past is rooted in racism, I doubt racism against blacks have much to do with it today. Most of it is "classicism", and I think his idea that this is mostly an international white plot against black people is very short-sided, ignorant, and avoiding the true roots of the problem. And perhaps it just makes the problem worse.

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-All white people are plantation owners? (I don't think my backyard is that big...)
More association by color as with the former. He sees that the rich and those who own the means of production (bourgeoisie, and therefore masters of the proletariat [which in America is constituted greatly by African-Americans]) are predominantly white. More short-sidedness. He doesn't realize its a problem of class and has always been a problem of class. I think he will outright deny the fact that there are rich black business owners too.

Its similar to the old European personifications of the bourgeoisie as Jews (and in this case, instead of the international Jewish conspiracy, it's the international white conspiracy).

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-We have to exterminate white people off the face of the planet? (WTF)
Yeah I'm at a complete loss too.

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Why is anyone taking this guy seriously; he's a bigot, a racist, the black David Duke. You could probably find the white version of this kind of lunacy on Stornfront.

How about this, racism is wrong. Period. No excuses. Doesn't matter if it's white-on-black, black-on-white, etc., etc., it's just wrong. Bigotry is wrong, prejudice is wrong. Calling for the extermination of a race is beyond incorrigible, and disturbing.
I agree completely. And I fear we're giving him too much attention than deserved.
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Personally, I lump you and Billy in the same catagory. Neither one of you want to resolve societies problems. Both of you just want to blame and antagonize others while not taking any personal responsibility for your own negative actions/pre-set assumptions towards others.

You haven't given one example of a solution. All you've done is point fingers at whites for anything you deem as 'socially wrong'. Just as Billy points fingers at 'republicans' and 'faciasts'.
Well Personally that's your business if you lump Billy and me in the
same catagory. Blame? Its the Damn truth that I speak, If you whites
wouldn't have beat my ancestors like they was animals all this racism
s*** would not have went down in your White history.

I do not have to give an example or a solution to your races social
problems. Also if you have read my posts that I submit on this site.
That there is ALWAYS one or two that spoils the whole race, and it
also happening amoung Blacks as well.

You can call my reactions negative if you like, but bare this in mind
while you're calling shots, and remember its my rights to speak up
and speak out. However in closing, I do have a FEW (not many) white
associates, and they are Muslims like myself.

Racism & Discrimination is two subjects that Whites try to avoid,
and one can tell by the reactions like you are showing. I tell you what
You stop the racism on here, and I will stop firing back.
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