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Old 05-16-2007, 09:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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American Imperialism
These articles and videos are a good summary of what most non-Americans know and most Americans don't know.

http://www.thismodernworld.org/arc/1995/95-05-17-Guatemala.gif
http://www.geocities.com/~virtualtruth/guatemal.htm
http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/history/2002/0413angola.htm
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/42a/127.html
http://www.namebase.org/scott.html

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/WTI062405V.shtml
http://www.theunjustmedia.com/major_general_smedley_butler.htm ***
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/CIAtimeline.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/KillingHope_page.html
http://michaelparenti.org/Imperialism101.html
http://www.chomsky.info/articles/19860409.htm
http://www.antipasministries.com/html/file0000133.htm
http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/chomskyin1282.html
http://www.michaelparenti.org/yugoslavia.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zepezauer_Mark/Iran_Boomerang.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Asia/EastTimor_Q%26A_Z.html


http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/sam/sam-contents.html
http://www.scuttlebuttsmallchow.com/racket.html

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13622.htm

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3117338213439292490&pl=true
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=1130731388742388243
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11635.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7333556703536657423
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8797525979024486145
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4827358238697503
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3453261789658676035&q=oil
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8085945499556832271
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8171.htm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14295.htm
http://www.jonhs.net/911/911_american_empire.htm
VIDEO: The "War on Terrorism" is a Fabrication

These two are the same video.
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13416.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5267640865741878159
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More here.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/

If you enter stuff like "Death squads", or "Torture", in this search engine, you'll find a lot of interesting stuff.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/htdig/search.html

I hope nobody considers this to be spam. I'm just trying to share what I've been able to learn by living abroad with my fellow Americans.
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Old 05-16-2007, 01:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hello Scott.
Part of what determines if it's spam or not is how well you support your own thread.
If you participate constructively in the dialogue, I'm not sure there'll be a problem.
tad's quite savvy about such things.
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WASHINGTON — Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani ... lashed out at Texas Rep. Ron Paul for suggesting that the United States' non-interventionist policy invited the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

[ Ron Paul said : ]
"They attack us because we've been over there. We've been bombing Iraq for 10 years. ... We've been in the Middle East," Paul said in explaining his opposition to going to war in Iraq. "Right now, we're building an embassy in Iraq that is bigger than the Vatican. We're building 14 permanent bases. What would we say here if China was doing this in our country or in the Gulf of Mexico? We would be objecting.

"They are delighted that we're over there because Usama bin Laden has said, 'I'm glad you're over on our sand because we can target you so much easier.' They have already now since that time they've killed 3,400 of our men and I don't think it was necessary," he continued.

www.foxnews.com/story/0,2...94,00.html
Is Ron Paul wrong?
Might he have phrased his assertion/s more persuasively?
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hello Scott.
Part of what determines if it's spam or not is how well you support your own thread.
If you participate constructively in the dialogue, I'm not sure there'll be a problem.
tad's quite savvy about such things.

Is Ron Paul wrong?
Might he have phrased his assertion/s more persuasively?
I admire Ron Paul because he tells it like it is instead of using emotional talking points like all politicians do. I think it is extremely important to know how our enemies think. If we do not understand the enemy we have lost.
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Is Ron Paul wrong?
Might he have phrased his assertion/s more persuasively?
Of course he's wrong. The US intervenes all over the world.
Check this out.
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/CIAtimeline.html

People like that usually know all about what the US government does. Those situations are to reenforce the official version of things in the people's minds. The whole thing was probably orchestrated.

Sincere politicians usually don't get elected because the press is against them. Here's a talk by a sincere politician named ROBERT BOWMAN. He's running for congress but he hasn't been elected yet.
Scroll down about twenty percent of the way in this link to find his speech.
http://www.snowshoefilms.com/911coverup.html

I've been living in Madrid since 93 and I'm pretty out-of-touch with what happens there. Has this guy been in the newspapers? Do people know about him? People like this guy are usually ignored by the press.
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"If we do not understand the enemy we have lost." billy
Or perhaps, if we do not understand our enemies, we increase our risk of loss & defeat.
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"Of course he's wrong. The US intervenes all over the world." Scott
Then you agree with Ron Paul.
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"People like this guy are usually ignored by the press." Scott
Correct. Ron Paul is no exception.
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"I've been living in Madrid since 93 and I'm pretty out-of-touch with what happens there. Has this guy been in the newspapers? Do people know about him?" Scott
Excellent questions Scott.

Ron Paul was, and I believe still is a Congressman (Representative I believe) from Texas. So he's obviously got some popularity, albeit in limited jurisdiction.

The U.S. seems selective about whom they fuss.

For reasons beyond my understanding, they were willing to make a fuss over a crackpot like H. Ross Perot.

But for a somewhat more lucid dude like Ron Paul, there seems as yet to be no groundswell.
I suspect most that aren't "political wonks" or "politics junkies" haven't heard of him.

How tragic that a principled man like Ron Paul can get railroaded out of the running; effectively silencing his message before it gets out.

Unfortunately, the conspiracy is broad enough so that it approaches perfect diffusion. If everyone is responsible, no one is responsible.
But there's little doubt about who is party to it.
The other Republican candidates, announced an otherwise, clearly want to shut him up, and shut him down.
The press avoids him, for several unflattering reasons.

The result is the same.
The U.S. political machine charges on. More debt. More carnage. More terrorism. More excuse for more debt, more carnage, and more terrorism.
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Old 05-19-2007, 04:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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"I've been living in Madrid since 93 and I'm pretty out-of-touch with what happens there. Has this guy been in the newspapers? Do people know about him?"
I was asking about Robert Bowman.

This is what Ron Paul said.
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"They attack us because we've been over there. We've been bombing Iraq for 10 years. ... We've been in the Middle East," Paul said in explaining his opposition to going to war in Iraq. "
Here's what RudyGiuliani said.
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"That's really an extraordinary statement," Giuliani said, interrupting FOX News panelist Wendell Goler. "That's really an extraordinary statement, as someone who lived through the attack of Sept. 11, that we invited the attack because we were attacking Iraq.
They both take for granted that Arab terrrists carried out 9/11. This is a typical orchestrated propaganda ploy. They take a false presumption have a debate based on that false presumption which reenforces the false presumption in the mind of the public.
Anyone who still thinks that 9/11 wasn't an inside job either hasn't seen the evidence, or is incapable of believing that there could have been a conspiracy.

Have you seen this evidence?
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Here's a frame from the footage taken by the security camera outside the Pentagon.
http://www.knowledgedrivenrevolution.com/Profiles/9-11/Multimedia/Pentagon_Video.jpg

Here's a sharper picture of it.
http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/wp-content/images/pentagon1_plane.jpg

I know pictures can be doctored but this is the frame released by the government. Why would the government doctor a picture to make it look like the nose of a plane that's too pointed to be that of a 757 and then release it?

Look at the picture in the first post of this page.
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=4223&st=30

This is before the collapse.
The wing of a 757 would have hit the wall of the Pentagon. The wings are full of fuel. There would have been a big fire to the left of the impact point. There also would have been a mark on the wall where the wing would have hit.

This analysis is consistent with the evidence.
http://www.physics911.net/missingwings

Here's something the conspirators forgot to consider when they were planning 9/11.
http://physics911.net/georgenelson

There are a documentaries about a lot of topics in this link.
http://www.question911.com/linksall.htm

The ones about 9/11 are--

Painful Deceptions
Loose Change
In Plane Site
The Great Conspiracy
Steven Jones

Here are some more.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8989407671184881047&q=9%2F11
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9210704017463126290
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6317630216235657870
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stVmEmJ666M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLrN9PWzB_o&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgRTS_6MNng&mode=related&search=

There is a good discourse in here by a guy named David Ray Griffin.
http://www.snowshoefilms.com/911coverup.html

http://www.wtc7.net/articles/WhyIndeed09.pdf


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What do you think of Robert Bowman?
http://www.snowshoefilms.com/911coverup.html
Scroll down about 20% in this link to see the video of him talking.

Has anybody seen anything about him in the press? Are people aware that he's running for congress?
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" Have you seen this evidence?" Scott
I saw your "Here's a sharper picture of it" "evidence".

I don't see evidence of much, except the Pentagon.
I don't see any aircraft.

Ockham's razor Scott.

Our officials have accused bin Laden.

Independent reports have indicated bin Laden had prior knowledge, and as the news began to filter through (ie news of the first tower strike), was known to have say (I paraphrase, as he didn't say it in English) :
Wait, there's more ...

bin Laden is not the only al Qaida that has confessed to the attacks of 09/11/01.

And I'm not sure what your conspiracy theory means.
That Bush intends to take over the country and turn it into a democracy?
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