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Old 12-13-2005, 09:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Inside 9/11
Right now I am absolutely stunned after watching this episode from National Geographic. Everything is explained in great detail of what happened on the day of 9/11.

One thing that made me shiver was the recording of a passenger talking to air control about the plane's current status. They played all the recordings left on husbands and wifes cell phones (If I don't make it, I love you, etc.)

We have heard conspiracy theories on these forums about 9/11 being an inside job. Well after you watch this, you will laugh at all those theories. Also conspiracy theories of the third building that collapsed was an inside job...Well when watching the towers collapse at many different camera angles, you can see why that happened.

Everything is explained in detail of what happened onboard (what the crew did, what the terorrists did) in the planes before they crashed in the WTC, Pentagon, etc. You have got to watch this show provided by national geographic. I am just stunned right now.

Episode guide can be found here:
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/c...inside911/

For those who have seen it, please post your opinions.
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Old 12-13-2005, 09:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by hevusa
Too bad they haven't put this online for download.


Does it explain why:

1) No fighter planes were in the air around NYC after a boeing plane hit a skyscrapper?

2) How WTC7 obviously fell with demolitions?

3) Where the plane wreckage was at the pentagon? And how it punctured a perfect little hole in the wall?

4) The lack of concentrated wreckage at the Pennsylvania crash?

5) The fact that most of terrorists were not from Iraq yet we are at war with Iraq?


Even the timeline of the National Geographic site you posted brings more questions....
and their sources are from many mass media sites. Factual information? Should we trust this knowing that our mass media has been consolidated?

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/c...urces.html
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When you watch this film, you will find out what happened.

What happens when you don't take something from the top of a pile at a supermarket? The video you saw does make it seem like demolitions took down the WTC7. When you see multiple videos from different angles of the first tower falling, you will notice the top part of the tower smash right into WTC7.

This part of the show gave me chills. Recordings of the passenger pannicting on the plane saying people are puking because of the sudden drop in altitude and increase in speed. She said the engines were very loud (terrorits punched the throttle). I would think 550 miles right into a building could be equivalent to a missle hitting an object. Plus you have many of the witnesses being interviewed as well as the two men who were right outside the pentagon.

I never knew that the passengers organized a plan to take back the plane by fighting the terrorists. One of the passengers talked to his wife 4 times. His wifes father was on the phone and heard loud noises in the background when the men tried to fight off the terrorists. The terrorists voices are heard on the radio waves saying they are going to take down everyone with them. Full throttle right into the ground and their WAS concentrated wreckage.

Were they not training in Iraq?

The conspiracy theories you present are as good as cows that jump over the moon. You even have the man who admitted to letting the terrorists in at Logan airport when he felt that they were probably terrorists. You have the voices and videos of the terrorists. Are you going to say that Bush paid these terrorists to hijack all these planes? If no plane hit the pentagon, then where is the plane? If no wreckage was found at the Pennsylvania crash, then where did that plane go?

Everything makes complete sense when you watch this. You only got to see planes hit the twin towers on the news and that's about it. This goes into so much detail, that all the recordings from the military, airline security, passengers on the planes, terrorists on the planes, are revealed by every minute. You won't see this stuff on the news.
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Originally Posted by sgtdmski
Had you watched the show you would have learned that their were fighters in the air, but the problems they had were not knowing where the jets were in flight. The FCC had difficulty determining the location of the actual incoming planes. Secondly, without authority to fire on civilian aircraft, the pilots, even if they had been able to make contact with the inbound planes would not have been authorized to fire.

Where is your factual support that there were demolitions used in the collapse of WTC 7. Because you say it we are to believe it. Nice try, no facts, just opinion, and you know what they say about opinions, everyone has one, just like everyone has an .......

How do you refute the eyewitness testimony of the onlookers in Virginia and Washington DC. Or for that matter the pictures that were taken of the plane coming in. The plane that hit the Pentagon missed, it landed short crashing into the ground before breaking apart and hitting the Pentagon building itself. Review the history of what happened.

Once again, how do you refute the eyewitness testimony of the witnesses to the crash of the Pennsylvania flight. The wreckage on almost all aircraft that collide with ground is not concentrate. There exists such a thing as physicals. When a moving object hits a stationary object, the wreckage is dispersed. Much like we saw in the Pennsylvania crash.

Yada yada yada, time and again the justifications for the Iraq war have been presented. We attacked Afghanistan as result of the 9/11 attacks. The war in Iraq is a continuation of the war on terror. Iraq and Saddam Hussein had promoted attacks against the US, had paid the families of suicide bombers, and had coordinated with al-Qaeda to not attack Iraq and Saddam Hussein in return for training areas, intelligence and weapons.

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