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Old 12-14-2005, 04:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Jane Fonda: U.S. Troops Are 'Killing Machines'
Jane Fonda: U.S. Troops Are 'Killing Machines'
Tuesday, Dec. 13, 2005 11:45 p.m. EST

"Hanoi Jane" Fonda is claiming that ever since Vietnam, U.S. troops have been trained to commit atrocities against innocent civilians as a matter of military policy.

"Starting with the Vietnam War we began training soldiers differently," the anti-American actress says in an email to the Washington Post.

Fonda claims she learned of the policy switch in "secret meetings" she had with military psychologists "who were really worried about what was happening to our combat personnel."

One doctor, she insists, told her U.S. troops had been deliberately trained to be "killing machines."

"This began," Fonda maintained, "because the military discovered that in World War II and Korea, [U.S.] soldiers weren't killing enough."

"So they changed training procedures" to teach troops how to commit atrocities.

Still, the anti-war gadfly cautions, it's important not to blame the soldiers themselves for carrying out war crimes.

Recalling the "Winter Soldier" hearings that she and John Kerry staged in 1971, Fonda lamented: "When you put young people into an atrocity-producing situation where enemy and civilian are commingled, where the 'other side' is dehumanized, we cannot be surprised."

Anti-war vets now returning from Iraq, Fonda cautioned, should be listened to instead of being dismissed as "unpatriotic."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...3/234848.shtml
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Old 12-14-2005, 06:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Jane Fonda: U.S. Troops Are 'Killing Machines'
Tuesday, Dec. 13, 2005 11:45 p.m. EST

"Hanoi Jane" Fonda is claiming that ever since Vietnam, U.S. troops have been trained to commit atrocities against innocent civilians as a matter of military policy.

"Starting with the Vietnam War we began training soldiers differently," the anti-American actress says in an email to the Washington Post.

Fonda claims she learned of the policy switch in "secret meetings" she had with military psychologists "who were really worried about what was happening to our combat personnel."

One doctor, she insists, told her U.S. troops had been deliberately trained to be "killing machines."

"This began," Fonda maintained, "because the military discovered that in World War II and Korea, [U.S.] soldiers weren't killing enough."

"So they changed training procedures" to teach troops how to commit atrocities.

Still, the anti-war gadfly cautions, it's important not to blame the soldiers themselves for carrying out war crimes.

Recalling the "Winter Soldier" hearings that she and John Kerry staged in 1971, Fonda lamented: "When you put young people into an atrocity-producing situation where enemy and civilian are commingled, where the 'other side' is dehumanized, we cannot be surprised."

Anti-war vets now returning from Iraq, Fonda cautioned, should be listened to instead of being dismissed as "unpatriotic."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...3/234848.shtml
why hasn't someone put a bullet in that traitors head already?
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That dumb bitch wouldn't know the first thing about the military, it's training or the sacrifice made by those who serve. Someone should fuck her in the ass with a dead cat. I think we should give a medal to the man that kills her.



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Old 01-10-2006, 03:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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It's funny how a few years ago she wanted to make a movie in a town heavy with Vietnam Veterans. She set up a date to "apoligize" The press came out and so did she. She said the words but her feelings never reached her eyes. The movie was scrapped after the town voted against the making of the movie. It was at the time over budget anyway.

Now she's walking down that same path. Saying the same bullshit. I say let her. She is one of the reasons the left continue to loose elections along with Michael Moore, Moveon.org, democraticunderground.com, John Kerry, Murtha, and all the rest of liberal Hollywood.

Thank you looney left for the relection of Bush.
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It's funny how a few years ago she wanted to make a movie in a town heavy with Vietnam Veterans. She set up a date to "apoligize" The press came out and so did she. She said the words but her feelings never reached her eyes. The movie was scrapped after the town voted against the making of the movie. It was at the time over budget anyway.

Now she's walking down that same path. Saying the same bullshit. I say let her. She is one of the reasons the left continue to loose elections along with Michael Moore, Moveon.org, democraticunderground.com, John Kerry, Murtha, and all the rest of liberal Hollywood.

Thank you looney left for the relection of Bush.
I agree that the failures of the left are as responsible for the election of this evil fucker as the stupidity and greed of the right. I wonder if we will ever again see a candidate that is worth a shit.
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Old 01-11-2006, 09:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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It's funny how a few years ago she wanted to make a movie in a town heavy with Vietnam Veterans. She set up a date to "apoligize" The press came out and so did she. She said the words but her feelings never reached her eyes. The movie was scrapped after the town voted against the making of the movie. It was at the time over budget anyway.

Now she's walking down that same path. Saying the same bullshit. I say let her. She is one of the reasons the left continue to loose elections along with Michael Moore, Moveon.org, democraticunderground.com, John Kerry, Murtha, and all the rest of liberal Hollywood.

Thank you looney left for the relection of Bush.
I agree that the failures of the left are as responsible for the election of this evil fucker as the stupidity and greed of the right. I wonder if we will ever again see a candidate that is worth a shit.
*Cough* John McCain *cough*
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"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
General George S. Patton was a great man. He's one of my heroes.
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