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| Congressional Representative ![]() Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Gender: ![]() Posts: 2,367 Country: ![]()
| I wonder what our greatest founding father, Thomas Jefferson, would think of SSM? After watching a biography and reading his inaugural address, I think he would approve: "All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression. Let us, then, fellow-citizens, unite with one heart and one mind. Let us restore to social intercourse that harmony and affection without which liberty and even life itself are but dreary things. And let us reflect that, having banished from our land that religious intolerance under which mankind so long bled and suffered, we have yet gained little if we countenance a political intolerance as despotic, as wicked, and capable of as bitter and bloody persecutions. " First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| A Funny Fellow Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL Gender: ![]() Posts: 6,537 Country: ![]()
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It's hard to say what he would think of SSM. I'm sure the issue never crossed anybody's mind during those times. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Head of Security Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Cradle of Liberty Gender: ![]() Posts: 10,486 Country: ![]()
| I think he would approve, he was a man of reason. Fight the good fight, and die with the enemy's heart in your hand. http://www.armysailor.com http://www.tadpolenet.com/techblog ------------------------------------ Check out my latest addition to the blogosphere Quixotic Journey | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Jefferson is not the only founding father with this viewpoint. The founding fathers were great politicians because they understood that the primary problem with a democracy is the tyranny of the majority. -Jaxian | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Banned ![]() Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Gender: ![]() Posts: 11,893 Country: ![]()
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"that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression" Apparently Jefferson didn't apply this principle to his own stable of slaves, including the one he "knocked up". I very much doubt whether he would have extended his feigned tolerance to include homosexual marriage! | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| SIMPLETON Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin Gender: ![]() Posts: 10,395 Country: ![]()
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Just imagine what a father at the time would have thought about his son liking boys. And with religion being such a strong force too. Good luck with that. This is my new signature. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Council Member ![]() Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The great, dead heart of suburbia Gender: ![]() Posts: 1,537 Country: ![]()
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I'd say they'd support it, but the general population definitely would not. Back then there was debate over whether or not Sundays should be established holidays where no businesses were legally allowed to be open! I highly doubt something like same sex marriage would be permitted by the populace. Still, I think for the most part the founding fathers had more sense, even if it was not in all areas. "Every time I hear the phrase 'Christian nation' I run to my car and blast a Slayer album at full volume." - Me | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Seattle (grew up around D.C.) Gender: ![]() Posts: 8,017 Country: ![]()
| Almost 300 years later and the words of this man rings very true today. What defines a free man or woman in this new millenium? --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Senator ![]() Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Gender: ![]() Posts: 3,758 Country: ![]()
| Jefferson is overrated. The "founding fathers" are mediocre and dated politically, and I don't like them socially. But my "favorite" would probably have to be Benjamin Franklin. He was much more well rounded than the others, considering his important inventions, and was an abolitionist leader. "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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