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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 07-08-2007, 08:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Should we admire Jesus?

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa014.html#12

Read it... think about it... and be honest with yourself.
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http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa014.html#12

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Matthew 5:9 Parallel Translations
NASB: "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (NASB ©1995)
GWT: Blessed are those who make peace. They will be called God's children.(GOD'S WORD®)
KJV: Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
ASV: Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called sons of God.
BBE: Happy are the peacemakers: for they will be named sons of God.
DBY: Blessed the peace-makers, for they shall be called sons of God.
ERV: Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called sons of God.
WEY: "Blessed are the peacemakers, for it is they who will be recognized as sons of God.
WBS: Blessed are the peace-makers: for they shall be called children of God.
WEB: Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God.
YLT: 'Happy the peacemakers -- because they shall be called Sons of God.

Matthew 5:9 Cross References
XREF: Matthew 5:45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

Luke 6:35 "But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungrateful and evil men.

Romans 8:14 For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. (NASB ©1995)
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PNT: 5:9 Blessed [are] the peacemakers. Not the soldiers of a warrior king, such as the Jews expected but the men who, in the name of the Prince of Peace, go forth to proclaim peace and good will among men. Christ is the great Peacemaker.
WES: 5:9 The peace makers - They that out of love to God and man do all possible good to all men. Peace in the Scripture sense implies all blessings temporal and eternal. They shall be called the children of God - Shall be acknowledged such by God and man. One would imagine a person of this amiable temper and behaviour would be the darling of mankind. But our Lord well knew it would not be so, as long as Satan was the prince of this world. He therefore warns them before of the treatment all were to expect, who were determined thus to tread in his steps, by immediately subjoining, Happy are they who are persecuted for righteousness' sake. Through this whole discourse we cannot but observe the most exact method which can possibly be conceived. Every paragraph, every sentence, is closely connected both with that which precedes, and that which follows it. And is not this the pattern for every Christian preacher? If any then are able to follow it without any premeditation, well: if not, let them not dare to preach without it. No rhapsody, no incoherency, whether the things spoken be true or false, comes of the Spirit of Christ.
MHC: 5:3-12 Our Saviour here gives eight characters of blessed people, which represent to us the principal graces of a Christian. 1. The poor in spirit are happy. These bring their minds to their condition, when it is a low condition. They are humble and lowly in their own eyes. They see their want, bewail their guilt, and thirst after a Redeemer. The kingdom of grace is of such; the kingdom of glory is for them. 2. Those that mourn are happy. That godly sorrow which worketh true repentance, watchfulness, a humble mind, and continual dependence for acceptance on the mercy of God in Christ Jesus, with constant seeking the Holy Spirit, to cleanse away the remaining evil, seems here to be intended. Heaven is the joy of our Lord; a mountain of joy, to which our way is through a vale of tears. Such mourners shall be comforted by their God. 3. The meek are happy. The meek are those who quietly submit to God; who can bear insult; are silent, or return a soft answer; who, in their patience, keep possession of their own souls, when they can scarcely keep possession of anything else. These meek ones are happy, even in this world. Meekness promotes wealth, comfort, and safety, even in this world. 4. Those who hunger and thirst after righteousness are happy. Righteousness is here put for all spiritual blessings. These are purchased for us by the righteousness of Christ, confirmed by the faithfulness of God. Our desires of spiritual blessings must be earnest. Though all desires for grace are not grace, yet such a desire as this, is a desire of God's own raising, and he will not forsake the work of his own hands. 5. The merciful are happy. We must not only bear our own afflictions patiently, but we must do all we can to help those who are in misery. We must have compassion on the souls of others, and help them; pity those who are in sin, and seek to snatch them as brands out of the burning. 6. The pure in heart are happy; for they shall see God. Here holiness and happiness are fully described and put together. The heart must be purified by faith, and kept for God. Create in me such a clean heart, O God. None but the pure are capable of seeing God, nor would heaven be happiness to the impure. As God cannot endure to look upon their iniquity, so they cannot look upon his purity. 7. The peace-makers are happy. They love, and desire, and delight in peace; and study to be quiet. They keep the peace that it be not broken, and recover it when it is broken. If the peace-makers are blessed, woe to the peace-breakers! 8. Those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake are happy. This saying is peculiar to Christianity; and it is more largely insisted upon than any of the rest. Yet there is nothing in our sufferings that can merit of God; but God will provide that those who lose for him, though life itself, shall not lose by him in the end. Blessed Jesus! how different are thy maxims from those of men of this world! They call the proud happy, and admire the gay, the rich, the powerful, and the victorious. May we find mercy from the Lord; may we be owned as his children, and inherit his kingdom. With these enjoyments and hopes, we may cheerfully welcome low or painful circumstances.

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Good article, but shouldnt this be in "religion?"
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whether you admire Him or not. You could respect Him. Within 5 minutes after you die, you will know for yourself whether He is real. Then it's done, over. All decisions and choices will be played out before you. The bible says your very heart will answer...
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1) I am unconcerned with what the Bible says... the same as I am unconcerned with what the Qu'ran or the Tanakh says...

2) I do respect Jesus... I believe he was a Bodhisatvah. I don't respect his evangelical followers...
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Should we admire Jesus?

Christ paid the penalty of sin. God demonstated His own love for us in this: while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

He hung on the cross as our substitute, dying a horrible death so the penalty of our sins might be paid.
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Wait it is in 'Religion'...
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No we should not "admire" Jesus. We should see Him as the co-existent, co-eternal second person of the God head. To admire Him is to relagate Him to the position of teacher or profit at best.
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