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07-18-2007, 10:22 AM
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 |   Government Official Says 9/11 Directed Energy Weapon Research "Worthy" The Director of Public Affairs at the Directed Energy Directorate, Kirtland Air Force Base, New Mexico says Dr Judy Wood's 9/11 directed energy weapon evidence is "interesting and worthy of further consideration". Read on... March 16, 2007: Former Clemson University Professor of Mechanical Engineering Dr Judy Wood files a Request for Correction with the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) regarding the 9/11 NIST Report. Dr Wood cites fraud and deception, and shows clear evidence that the World Trade Center was destroyed by directed energy weaponry. Dr Judy Wood is represented by attorney Jerry Leaphart. Dr Wood's Request for Correction (RFC) is archived on the US Government's Department of Commerce website in PDF format: RFC (March 16, 2007): http://www.ocio.os.doc.gov/ITPolicyandProg...K/PROD01_002667 Supplement#1 (March 29, 2007): http://www.ocio.os.doc.gov/ITPolicyandProg...K/PROD01_002722 Supplement#2 (April 20, 2007): http://www.ocio.os.doc.gov/ITPolicyandProg...K/PROD01_002899 April 7, 2007: Dr Wood sends letter to * The Head of U.S. Air Force Directed Energy Directorate * The Office of Management and Budget Deputy Director for Management * The Board of Directors of Directed Energy Professional Society The main question of this letter: "Are the effects set forth in RFC filed with NIST consistent with the destructive effects that would result from the use of directed energy weapons?" See here for full letter with additional comments by Jerry Leaphart: DEW Information Request Letter April 27, 2007: Wood and Leaphart are contacted and have telephone conversation with The Director of Public Affairs Directed Energy Directorate Air Force Research Laboratory/DEO-PA Kirtland Air Force Base, New Mexico May 3 2007: Leaphart sends letter to the Director of Public Affairs: http://drjudywood.com/pdf/070503_letterGarcia.pdf May 4, 2007: Leaphart receives the following FAX from the Director of Public Affairs at the Directed Energy Directorate, Kirtland Air Force Base (emphasis added): =================================== MESSAGE: I received your fax yesterday and your FedEx package today, and had a chance to review the materials you sent. During our telephone conversation I outlined a variety of directed energies that might have future weapons applications but I'm not aware of any that are mature enough to cause the damage at the World Trade Center. Lasers are the most likely candidates for nearer-term weapons use and, to that enc, we have conducted laboratory tests to evaluate the effects of laser energy on different materials. For the most part, those materials have been metals, not concrete structures. Effects on metals are from the heat generated by an intense beam of coherent light, which cause the metals to weaken and split. Given sufficient heat, metals would melt (become liquids) and, given significantly more heat, could turn to gases. Since we haven't tested concrete I don't know if the effect would be dust. You report phenomena that we cannot explain here, either because we don't have enough data or because the phenomena are not within our area of expertise. While on a personal level I may find Dr Wood's investigation interesting and worthy of further consideration, on a professional level we are unable to devote our limited resources to activities outside of our charter, I wish you success in your endeavor and am available to answer whatever directed energy questions may arise. =================================== See here for a scan of the original FAX document: Garcia Responds Dr Wood's 9/11 directed energy weapon evidence is "interesting and worthy of further consideration"! -------------------------- June 29, 2007: The Chief of the Management and Organization division at NIST replies to Dr Wood, and states they need more time to respond to her RFC: NIST-update Letter NIST needs **more time** ?? -------------------------- See Dr Judy Wood's 9/11 directed energy weapon research here: 9/11 Issues | |||||||||||||||||||||
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07-18-2007, 11:31 AM
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| Here, again, is an analysis of Wood's...ummmm...theory: http://www.journalof911studies.com/v...ry-Jenkins.pdf | |||||||||||||||||||||
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07-18-2007, 11:52 AM
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| The article linked in the previous post is from Greg Jenkins, a government plant with ties to Los Alamos and the NSA. A careful read through this page proves this: Reading Between The Lines -- Jenkins/Wood interview revisited, Text, Subtext and The Truth About DEWs Obviously, Jenkins cannot be trusted for a second. But it really doesn't matter. The directed energy weapon evidence is so simple that a child could understand it. Everyone should go to Dr Wood's site and look at the simple information for themselves: 9/11 Issues Last edited by CB_Brooklyn; 07-18-2007 at 11:57 AM. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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07-18-2007, 02:43 PM
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07-18-2007, 04:00 PM
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| Here is an excerpt from Dr. Gregory S. Jenkins' paper titled "The Overwhelming Implausibility of Using Directed Energy Beams to Demolish the World Trade Center Towers": "MIRACL Laser Operation Specifications The largest known laser in the western hemisphere throughout the 1990’s was the MIRACL laser (Mid-Infrared Advanced Chemical Laser). A joint Israeli-American project located at the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico, the laser facility boasts the ability to destroy Katyusha rockets. The laser is continuous-wave with a maximum output of roughly 1 MW of power encompassing the wavelengths 3.6 to 4.0 (micro)m. Maximum run-time is 30 seconds at maximum power. The operation of the laser is quite telling. Ethylene (C2H4) and nitrogen trifluoride (NF3) are burned at the input of the laser cavity. Excited fluorine atoms are liberated during the combustion. Further downstream, deuterium and helium (an exchange gas probably used to adjust the de-excitation time scales) are injected into the stream where the deuterium combines with the free fluorine atoms to form deuterium fluoride (DF) in vibrational and rotational excited states. The laser cavity is actually perpendicular to the flow of gases, and evidently supports 10 modes concurrently. The massive amount of gas flow can only be compared to a jet engine. The gas is drawn through the laser cavity by creating a vacuum of 150 Torr on one end. Since the quantity of gas is so large, the vacuum is produced by condensing massive amounts of steam into water. The exhaust gas leaves the laser cavity at 1127C and is cooled to 40C. The toxic gas is reacted with a 1% sodium hydroxide solution to remove HF and DF gas from the exhaust. The resulting sodium fluoride is treated with lime resulting in fluorspar (CaF2) sludge. It is instructive to consider the logistics and sheer amount of resources utilized in an average run (not necessarily at maximum power for the maximum allowable time duration) of the laser: 340,650L of water, 11,355L of diesel fuel, 16 kg of deuterium gas, 4.5 kg of ethylene gas, and 381 kg of nitrogen trifluoride gas. Fluorspar sludge (630 kg) is generated as a byproduct. The facility, only including the actual housing of the laser as well as gas handling and water handling peripherals, occupies an area of approximately 1.48 sq km. Due to the logistical nightmare, only 6 to 10 laser tests were performed annually throughout the 1990’s. Energy Comparisons to the MIRACL Laser and Ramifications The power required to evaporate the steel in one of the WTC towers is astronomically large. To get a feel for the huge size of this number, we will compare to the largest laser in the western hemisphere, the MIRACL laser. Recall that the power required to evaporate the steel in a WTC tower was 5.7x10^13 Watts. The power output of the mammoth size MIRACL laser is 10^6 Watts. This means that we would need 5.7x10^7, or 57 million MIRACL lasers of power! To put these numbers into perspective, we can scale the resources used by the behemoth MIRACL laser by a factor of 57 million. The necessary amount of water is 4% of the water in Lake Erie,9 the land area occupied by the facility would be 9 times the total land area of the United States,10 the amount of nitrogen trifluoride required exceeds 11,000 times the worldwide supply,7 and the amount of diesel fuel would be equal to the daily US demand of all distillate fuels.8 Suffice to say that any known method to generate the energy required to vaporize the steel in the upper 110 stories of the WTC towers is not going to be space-based. By contrast, the MIRACL laser is designed to destroy Katyusha rockets to “heat up the skin of the missile and then the internal pressure of the fuel tank actually causes the missile to explode”.6 The power required to heat the entire shell to 600C of a Katyusha rocket requires 1 MW over 4.2 seconds6 which physically explains why theMIRACL laser works for its intended purpose." | |||||||||||||||||||||
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07-19-2007, 03:38 AM
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| Thank you for posting the quote from Jenkins paper, now I can debunk it: The largest known laser in the western hemisphere throughout the 1990’s was the MIRACL laser (Mid-Infrared Advanced Chemical Laser). Jenkins is referring to technology that is in the public domain. Rest assured, technologies and weapons exist that are classified top secret. It wouldn't surprise me if Jenkins' himself knows of these technologies/weapons; after all he does have ties to Los Alamos and the NSA. Dr Wood does not limit her theory to "lasers". Read the section in the blue box in her paper. The power required to evaporate the steel in one of the WTC towers is astronomically large. Dr Judy Wood has never said the WTC was "evaporated" or "vaporized". So why is Jenkins using those terms? Perhaps to mislead people?? Dr Wood coined the term "dustification" to describe the effects based on the evidence. Evidence includes these videos of the steel spire turning to dust: YouTube - Spire View YouTube - wtc spire YouTube - 9/11stealth - WTC - CNN - NASA - PBS - Iron to Dust The lack of enough steel/debris to account for two 1/4 mile high towers: 9/11 Truth Movement Forums -> The Wtc Twin Towers Were *pulverized* On 9/11  The technology to "dustify" metal via energy waves exists. Race to Zero Point: Tesla The Race to Zero Point Free Energy ( Documentary ZPE ) Last edited by CB_Brooklyn; 07-19-2007 at 03:48 AM. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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07-19-2007, 12:34 PM
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 (It must be quite convenient for you that these supposed technologies and weapons are top secret, aye CB_Brooklyn...since, because of this secrecy, you can claim that the US can do anything at all it that it may want to do in this physical world no matter how rediculous it sounds.  )Quote:
Or, why couldn't Dr. Wood just as well claim that there is the possibility that some previously unknown and unwitnessed natural process "dustified" the Twin Towers? Why, in short, should she limit the cause of the supposed "dustification" of the Twin Towers to some US weapon technology since she is unaware as to how this supposed "dustification" had occured? Quote:
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And Dr. Jenkins is going by what objective facts the scientific community has established concerning materials such as steel. Quote:
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Thanks, in advance. (And no, a video isn't a peer-reviewed scientific journal.) Last edited by baloney_detector; 07-19-2007 at 12:40 PM. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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07-19-2007, 12:56 PM
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| Personally, I think it's more of the X-Files version, namely, spacecaft came down from Alpha Centauri and used their space lasers to 'dustify' the twin towers (circa War of the Worlds, 50's version). They of course used their cloaking devices so we couldn't see them, and also used their hypno-rays to make everyone in the world think they actually saw planes flying into the buildings. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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07-19-2007, 12:57 PM
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| How can any even remotely intelligent person reading this bunk not find it absolutely assinine is beyond me. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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