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07-21-2007, 03:24 PM
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 |  Terrorism Rooted in Culture of Hate Terrorism Rooted in Culture of Hate Dr. Abd Al-Hamid Al-Ansari, former dean of the shari´a and law faculty at Qatar University, an exponent of liberal Islam claims that it is impossible to live in denial. Current Muslim teaching is the progenitor of terrorism. MEMRI (6/19/2007) Baseless Excuses for Terrorism In an article titled "How the Arabs Explain the Terror Phenomenon" in the Qatari daily Al-Raya, Al-Ansari criticized the ways in which the Arab world denies and ignores the phenomenon of terrorism, and refuted the political and socio-economic arguments justifying it: "...I don't understand the personality split in some people; they depict the terrorist in Iraq as a martyr and a resistance fighter…How can we term someone a martyr when he blows up schools and hospitals, does not respect the sanctity of religious sites, and, worse, blows himself up in restaurants and bus stations full of workers?!... "Why has the terrorist violence increased? And why has it reached a level of such madness and barbarism? Why aren't we managing to deal with it and handle it? Why is there a rise in terror operations targeting innocents?! "In my view, the [answer] lies in our inability to explain the phenomenon of terrorism, and to break it down into its structural internal causes and into the environmental elements that support its existence. [This inability] emanates from the following three main causes that are common in the Arab arena as explanations for terrorism: "The first is the discourse of denial... that is, exonerating Muslims from [any] accusation of [perpetrating] terror operations, and [instead] accusing their enemies - usually the Mossad and U.S. intelligence. An extensive sector of prominent clerics, intellectual elites, and the masses are still convinced that 9/11 was a Mossad or U.S. intelligence operation... Likewise, many deny that Al-Zarqawi [ever] existed, and blame Israel and the U.S. for what is going on in Iraq. "The second cause is the discourse of defensiveness, as manifested in repeated statements that terrorism has no religion, homeland or nationality, but is a transient virus that is alien [to the Arab world] - or that Islam is innocent [of terrorism]. "The third cause is the discourse of justification, which is extremely common in the religious and media outlets. This discourse tries to link terrorism with political factors, international conflicts or internal socio-economic factors - saying that terrorism is the outcome of political repression by some regimes that strangle freedoms and are hostile to democracy or that terrorism is a response to American and Western injustices, to the policy of discrimination [against Muslims], to the blind pro-Israel bias, and to the global conspiracy against the Muslims… "There are also those who excuse terrorism because of unemployment and poverty, or use as an excuse the spread of corruption, permissiveness, women's adorning themselves in public, [and women's] attaining political rights and being appointed to senior positions, which is considered perverse in the eyes of those [who excuse terrorism]. "All these excuses are baseless. First, we are not the only nation that suffers from injustice - after all, nations and peoples in Africa, America, and Asia suffer from graver injustice than we. "Second, throughout Muslim history - from the days of the Righteous Caliphs to our own time - injustice on the part of Muslims against other Muslims is greater than the injustices on the part of the enemies [of the Muslims] against them. "Third, throughout history it has not been proven that any terrorist operation has [ever] restored what was plundered or achieved any political goal. With regard to [the claim that] the lack of democracy and freedoms causes terrorism, [the fact is that] nothing in any of Al-Qaeda's publications includes any demands for democracy - and furthermore, Al-Qaeda hates democracy and sees it as heresy. "With regard to the [excuse of] unemployment, this claim is contradicted by the good [financial] situation of Al-Qaeda's leaders and members, as well as of [other terrorists] who possess funds, ammunition, weapons, and equipment. "Likewise, many peoples, past and present, have suffered from difficult situations - yet they have not pushed their sons to blow themselves up among innocents as we do. I am certain that if the American occupation were to disappear tomorrow, terrorism in Iraq would not stop - indeed, it would become even more violent and barbaric. "With regard to the Palestinian problem, none of the plans and publications of the terrorist groups include any demand connected in any way to Palestine. And as to women's leaving their homes and adorning themselves in public - how can this possibly explain why terrorism has invaded Saudi Arabia?... "As long as we do not adopt a self[-critical] approach, the malady [of terrorism] will remain, and will even get worse..." [1] Terrorism - The Outcome of a Culture of Hatred In an article titled "How to Make Our Young People Love Life" in the Kuwaiti daily Al-Siyassa, Dr. Al-Ansari stated that it is the culture of hatred and extremism in the Arab countries that causes terrorism: "Terrorism is the fruit of hatred - hatred of life, hatred of civilization and the [modern] era, hatred of society and state, hatred of living people. The young people who have become tools of murder and human bombs are the sons of the culture of hatred, and the outcome of a fanatical culture and extremist ideology that sees life, its pleasures, and its beauty as unimportant. Ultimately the political, economic, social, and religious motives that push [the young people] to blow themselves up lie in a single main cause - and that is the culture of hatred. "These young people, at the age of flowering, have become the enemies of their society, avenging, hating, and exploding. They are our terrorist sons, raised in our bosoms, suckled by our culture, taught in our schools, and taught religious law from our religious pulpits and by the fatwas of our clerics. "What, then, has made them prefer death to life? I have no answer except the fact that we have not managed to make them love life. We have taught them to die for the sake of Allah, but we have not taught them to love, to build, to create, and to help society for the sake of Allah. We have taught them that nationalism [means] attacking America and opposing imperialism, but we have not taught them that nationalism is love, loyalty, and belonging to the homeland... "How can this miserable creature called the Arab and Muslim individual not turn to extremism, when he is surrounded by an overall atmosphere of extremism, bound by the shackles of repression and prohibitions, and girded by the ideas of intimidation and terrorization, and of almost endless torment? These accompany this creature from birth to death, beginning with dire warnings about the torments of the grave and enemy plots lying in wait for Islam and the Muslims, [as well as] the long list of prohibitions that has made blessed life - the gift of the Creator - into a prison of pain, from which the individual seeks to escape to Paradise and to the lovely maidens in it. "As if all this were not enough, we even employ religious police to follow the people, to restrict their freedoms, to spy on them, and to interfere in their personal affairs. So how can there not be widespread phenomena of tension and worry in the souls [of the people]?... "Go to hear a Friday sermon, and you will find a preacher who is enraged at the world, angry at civilization, spreading the poison of hatred and enmity. Then you will leave [the mosque] tense and angry!... "The world's young people engage in music, art, and enjoyment of the pleasures of life. They create, discover, and participate in building the strength and the culture of their society - while we engage our young people in religious law disputes on the veil, the beard, how long garments should be, and how to greet Christians - or we engage our young people in adults' political and ideological disputes, or push them to go to Iraq and Afghanistan to commit suicide! "Hatred is a culture of prohibitions, and the result of our viewing the world as an enemy lying in wait [for us.] Many factors have played a part [in shaping this world view], including the religious messages anchored in fears of plots [against us], the educational messages that have produced in young people alienation from the [modern] era, and a great number of publications by the Muslim Brotherhood and by the nationalists, which have, for the past 50 years, spread hatred of the other and conspiracy theories [against the Muslims]. "We need a culture that will restore the importance of life and the value of the individual, and will make young people love the arts and the humanities..." [2] The Values of Tolerance Should Be Implemented In an article titled "Our Sons and the Culture of Tolerance" in the UAE dailyAl-Ittihad, Al-Ansari called for Arab societies to abandon the culture of fanaticism and to adopt the principle of tolerance in order to destroy extremism and terrorism: "...What is it that has turned some of our sons into prey?... What is it that has made them love perdition and death?... It is the heritage of fanaticism that comes to us from the dawn of history, that was founded and consolidated, and spread and based itself, in the social infrastructure, throughout Muslim history, in the shadow of the tyrannical regimes that suppressed, discriminated, and marginalized [both] Muslims and non-Muslims. "Unfortunately, inhuman religious commentaries have supported them... The fanatical and discriminatory tradition - which contradicts Muslim principles - is the one from which some of our sons have drunk... "In this current era in which we live, we do not need everything that is in the books of our forefathers. Rather, we [need] religious laws that will embrace the individual as an individual, and will bring our young people to love life, culture, and the advanced arts. "Second, we must stop praising and priding ourselves on 'tolerance,' when we continue to live without tolerance. If we are truthful, and if we are faithful to our principles, we must translate [the principles of tolerance] into actual behavior... "In my opinion, education is the key and the true beginning for reinforcing the values of tolerance: [education] at home, [education] in the family, by parents' tolerance towards each other and towards their neighbors, by family [members'] mutual tolerance, and by their tolerance towards the servants in the home - tolerance that spreads to the educational institutions and to the rest of the institutions of civil society and of the government, in all its political, cultural, and religious aspects. "In this way, the religious and cultural elite will implement the culture of tolerance, and will uproot the accusations of treason, of heresy, and of espionage [that Muslims level at one other]. Thus, society will be ruled by a system of laws that are just towards ethnic groups, and there will be a political regime that will ensure equal rights and freedoms for all." [3] [1] Al-Raya (Qatar), April 23, 2007. [2] Al-Siyassa (Kuwait), May 15, 2007. [3] Al-Ittihad (UAE), May 18, 2007. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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08-10-2007, 04:20 AM
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| That's a smart dude.. very valid points and very positive solutions. Some things i disagree with though: Firstly you cannot discount socio-economic situations from the tendency towards religious extremism and violence. A lousy socio-economic situation creates precisely that type of frustration that is required by a mullah to turn a boy into a killer. All he has to do is point to the boy's own life and offer a "way out" or a chance at venegance against the evil west that is responsible for his plight. If the socio-economic situation is improved, the likelihood that a boy can be turned to such senseless violence decreases noticably. Secondly, international actions and reactions go a long way to prove the mullahs "right". They call America the imperialist tyrant ( and gather much support for it). Yet if the US didn't consistently say or do things that reinforced this image, it would cease to be a rallying cry. No doubt many actions are falsely interpreted and twisted, but many are not. The seeds of anti-americanism already exist. All the mullahs do is fertilize it with their bullshit. Anyhow i do agree with the man in that the ultimate responsibility for fixing lies with the nations themselves. However it is made more difficult because the US ( and other nations) have a stake in how Pakistan (for instance) develops. For instance even SUGGESTING unilateral military action on pakistani soil is damaging as the mullah's can cry 'INVASION". At the very least they can point to the US and say "well they are just waiting for their chance to invade your home and take your sovereignty from you". Nevertheless, it is absolutely true that only education and progress will root out terrorism. But that said it is incumbent on EVERY party in the War on Terror to accept that it is not a conventional enemy to fight with guns and tanks. Love for all, Hatred for none | |||||||||||||||||||||
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08-10-2007, 07:36 AM
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| Here's an excellent article, something especially Bush supporters should read: 'Why Do They Hate Us?' - washingtonpost.com | |||||||||||||||||||||
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08-10-2007, 10:48 AM
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Simply put, for there to be economic reform in any country, there needs to be a willingness to embrace capitalism is a "necessary evil" and a realization that materialism will always exist in cultures whereby the trade of any goods is performed at all. And, as far as secularism is concerned, this isn't necessarily a component of a capitalist economy unless, of course, God is somehow deemed to be the provider for all. (And, in some cases, calling the US an "imperialistic country" isn't a good excuse for not negotiating better terms with US-based companies.) | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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08-11-2007, 11:56 AM
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| We Have Met The Enemy—And His Name Is: ISLAM! We Have Met The Enemy—And His Name Is: ISLAM!by Marc 85902Why are the news media, the liberal intelligentsia who dominate the halls of academe, even the White House itself—the President and Secretary of State—referring to the Wahabbi Islamic terrorists as “hijackers of a peaceful religion.” When the words of the Islamic holy writings themselves prove what Islam is: a religion founded upon violence and warfare!?Well, the answer is as plain as the nose on the late Yassar Arafat’s face—which is very plain indeed: oil!The Muslims own most of the oil in the world—Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq, Kuwait, and so on and so forth—and let us not forget our good friend Iran, too!Keeping the oil flowing is the most important thing—without oil, we’re screwed! So that is why Dubya, his father, Slick Willy, and every other President in the past 30+ years has been kissing Islam’s backside.Why must we consider Islam to be our mortal enemy? Well, for openers, a religion that demands its devout, faithful followers exterminate anyone who will not convert to it—there are many verses in the Koran and the Hadith that stipulate the Christians and Jews and all other ‘infidels’ are to be killed if they will not convert—is certainly a religion I would regard as a direct and deadly threat to my life! And, I must confess, I’d keep my eyes on any of its followers who happened to be in my immediate vicinity, too!The books illustrated below assuredly prove that Islam, far from being a ‘beautiful religion of peace’. is actually a cult founded on not just warfare, but bloodbath slaughter. What happened on 11 September 2001 has proven that beyond any doubt!“May Allah rip out his spine from his back and split his brains in two, and then put them both back and do it over and over again. Amen.” (See the top of the cover.)—A post on RevisingIslam.com—hardly a comment a devotee of a ‘beautiful religion of peace’ would utter, wouldn’t you think?Steven Emerson has proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that Islamic terrorists have taken command and control eight to nine out of every ten Islamic mosques, ‘cultural centers’ and other Islamic religious facilities within the United States! Yet nothing has been done to shut them down! WHY!?Hal Lindsey has done an excellent job of illustrating the underlying reason this insane, irrational hatred between Islam and Jew exists, and why nothing short of the utter destruction of the nation of Israel will sate the bloodlust of the descendents of Ishmael and Esau in their perpetual blood-feud with the descendents of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob!Unrestricted Warfare illiterates how groups of terrorists can wage ‘asymmetrical warfare’ against a large, powerful nation and strike crippling blows. Indeed, Red China is closely affiliated to Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda and Hamas—as is Iran, and other Middle Eastern nations where Islam reigns.All four of these books clearly prove that Islam is the deadly enemy of anyone who wishes to breathe free and to live and worship as they please, rather than a theocratic clique of imams and mullahs would dictate. Indeed, Steve Emerson and Robert Spencer have been threatened with death by assorted Islamics who were offended at what they wrote—which is but the truth about their religion.Islam is not a peaceful religion. And anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool—and soon a dead one, too. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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08-12-2007, 04:19 AM
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| see true terrorist have a constitution which they vow to give all they r too. and they r devout in they beliefs and the main giving is whole self to all the constitution demands mostly they are trying to stop communisum again as said by me befor 911 was not an assault on america 911 was an assault on communisum within america all but 8 that died were communist illegals that worked against america within the twin towers true they r not just there And every body on board except10 terrorist were communist also the 1 fire chief that was trainning the other chiefs he was not a communist yes it was a declaired war on communisum from within the united states of america from several years prier if u r not a communist u really dont have much to b concerned with....musica....possum........!!!!! | |||||||||||||||||||||
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08-12-2007, 04:40 AM
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| thats my understanding according to thier constitution Catheri P.g.Ward federal & international judge law reasearcher....musica....possum........ | |||||||||||||||||||||
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08-13-2007, 05:00 AM
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| Wow marc, you certainly have a lot of anger in you.. anyhow i'm a muslim and i can assure you that Islam is not your enemy... we do have a common enemy if you would believe it. That common enemy are those who can only see their survival and success in the destruction of others. Ultimately peace can only come when and if people believe that there has to be space enough for everybody. You claim that my religion tells me to kill any infidels. Well as a believer i can tell that isn't true. In fact i would ahve a real hard time with that seeing as everybody from my mother's side is christian and everybody from the fathers' side as muslim. Just as you have the KKK using the "american dream" as a justification for their racism, just as you have some white supremacists quoting the bible to justify their bigotry, just as you had catholic priests quoting the bible to justify the inquisition, well so too does Islam have its "adherents" that justify their actions by quoting the quran and hadith. Leave alone the fact that very often quotes from the Quran are taken out of context AND quotes from the hadith have no historical verification nor do all muslims agree on which hadith are true and which aren't. Likewise Islam is a religion that consists of 73 (often conflicting ) sects and innumerable sub-sects. It is not unified nor is there agreement as to what constutues Islam. That is why you will find some radical islamists praising OBL and others condemning him. How do you fight a belief? Do you kill any that LOOK like muslims? Or do you kill anybody that says they are muslim. How about those that happen to have been raised in a muslim environment.. and what sect of Islam is to be killed. For instance a sect like the Ahmedis are completely forbidden to resort to violence for religion. In the event of attack or persecution, they are told to like it or leave it ( leaving is ALWAYS an option ). No ahmedi has ever been involved or even suspected in any act of religious violence.. they are muslims yes, but are they your enemies? Your hatred is obvious and clear cut.. but i don't believe your reasoning is solid. Quoting the bigoted opinions of others is no reasoning.. It is completely inaccurate for ANYBODY to claim to have found something that 1.2 billion people are in agreement on. I should add that the bible too has quotes exhorting death and destruction to non-believers ( something the RRC is definately guilty of). Yet you realize that some nutjobs interpret that to support their racism and violence.. whereas most do not ( thankfully). Likewise such is the case with Islam. If it were such a unified front that was in agreement about the US' destruction i can assure you that the US would already have been a dustbowl. 1.2 billion people that hold most of the world's oil AND have nuclear nations among them could have messed you up long ago. But thankfully the majority is NOT violent, which is why the oil still flows and your nation still survives. I am not sure whether you are intersted in giving up some hatred, but i sincerely recommend it.. Your hatred is misplacedx and will do nobody any good. Love for all, Hatred for none | |||||||||||||||||||||
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08-13-2007, 05:17 AM
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"The commandment of Allah is: “Jihad (fighting in the cause of Allah) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing, which is actually good for you and that you like a thing, which is actually bad for you. Only Allah has the absolute knowledge but you do not know.” [2:216] This commandment of Allah is obligatory on every Muslim and is valid for all times – just like none of the commandments of Prayer, Fasting, Hajj and Zakat (obligatory alms) are temporary. There are certain conditions, however, like Hajj will only be performed during the days of Hajj; fasting will be in Ramadan; prayers during prescribed timings and Jihad (Qitaal) [fighting by sword] when it becomes obligatory etc. " ahmedi.org -- truth for Ahmadis | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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08-14-2007, 07:24 PM
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| possum Join Date: Apr 2007
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| alah is not against ZEN GOD ZEN but yes against the GOD that is said to rheine over the warroriers that caused zen persons not to be allowd to be zen persons & forced the restrictions of the muslimsTHOSE persons were forced to ask to be beheaded rather than go against they GOD were only allowd a few laws so the communist would have someone to rule over those laws were not to be sexual with the unclean person, thing & never to have to be sexual with BEASTIES IN THE FIELD NOr IN THE DWELLINGS lived in or not , not to nor be forced too have to eat the unclean & unclean carnage eaters swine & fawl they were only allowd a very few other laws with the mass suieside that was thier own decission & each chose to be beheaded & hired a beheadsman to behead in a clean spot of they own not a death spot of war the # wast extream FACT & TRUE PROVED | |||||||||||||||||||||
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