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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 07-26-2007, 09:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How much does religion shape a person?
My apologies, this will be a very short intro post. I was recently introduced to someone so into their religion that they completely refused to be involved in a conversation concerning the ideals and beliefs of other religions. The more we talked, the more close-minded this person turned out to be. We covered the basics of her religion, including "God's Plan," "Good vs. Evil," and "The Afterlife." And while she doesn't completely understand her faith herself, she is 100% behind anything and everything her church says/does.

Is this normal behavior?
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Old 07-26-2007, 09:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Not at all. This is called being brain washed.
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Old 07-26-2007, 09:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Not at all. This is called being brain washed.
Is it right? No. But is it normal (as in common)? Unfortunately yes.
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Old 07-26-2007, 09:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Not at all. This is called being brain washed.
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Is it right? No. But is it normal (as in common)? Unfortunately yes.

yes, all too common
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:46 AM   #5 (permalink)
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yes, all too common
How unfortunate. It really sickened me, actually.
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Old 07-27-2007, 06:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I too have run into a lot of people that are REALLY into religion. I don't consider them sad or intolerant. I think everybody has a "thing". And for some people it is their religion that gives their life focus and reason. IMHO trying to talk someone OUT of their religion with reason and logic is rude and disrespectful. I'm sure they know that many parts don't stand up to scientific scrutiny.

I grew up in the Southern Baptist church but during my time in the Marines and having roommates that ranged all types of belief and lacks thereof I came to simply believe that there is a God, but he probably has better things to do than worry about my day to day goings on. I don't try to impress my belief system on others and I respectfully tell others I'm not interested when they try to explain why I "need God in my life".

Taken to the extreme anything can be turned into a negative, but personally I find most religions and the structure that they offer people that follow them a good thing.

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Old 07-27-2007, 09:14 AM   #7 (permalink)
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When I first met my husband, he was also very 'into' his religion (JW).

He would not be around during birthdays, Christmas, any holidays.

Since being away from the constant, day to day ingraining, however, I he's seeing that what was always taught to him as being 'evil' like birthdays and holidays, isn't that at all. As a matter of fact, his last birthday he joked 'What are you getting me for my birthday?' I told him 'Same thing you got me for mine. Nothing.'

It's been a struggle, and we've had our disagreements about it, but after almost 8 years of marriage, he's finally coming around to realize that things aren't always as black and white as some religions would want you to believe.

Now if I can just get him into the habit of buying me presents....
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I don't try to impress my belief system on others and I respectfully ask tell others I'm not interested when they try to explain why I "need God in my life".
I am again happy to report that we have another thing in common, fx.
I could have written the above about myself.

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Old 07-28-2007, 08:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
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My apologies, this will be a very short intro post. I was recently introduced to someone so into their religion that they completely refused to be involved in a conversation concerning the ideals and beliefs of other religions. The more we talked, the more close-minded this person turned out to be. We covered the basics of her religion, including "God's Plan," "Good vs. Evil," and "The Afterlife." And while she doesn't completely understand her faith herself, she is 100% behind anything and everything her church says/does.

Is this normal behavior?
I've never run into anyone like that, but that's definitely not normal behavior in the mainstream. Most people are only religious because it gives them peace of mind in worldly pursuits.

When people go to lengths such as that person, it's usually because they are arrogant or have a superiority complex. That's why moderate and liberal believers aren't street preachers. They don't have that same desire to impose their views on the world, and when they "share" it's really just a euphemism for acting self-righteous in order to fulfill their own selfish egos.

It also stems from a strong desire to belong in the case of her church. Highly structured, rigid institutions such as that one usually demand complete compliance, and unless that is fulfilled, many people feel alienated. If the institution is rigid enough, it might even actively alienate the person for not being "good" enough. It's like a private club.
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I am again happy to report that we have another thing in common, fx.
I could have written the above about myself.
Heeyyy...Maybe I'm a lesbian....Or maybe you're a dude...Or maybe we are sharing the same brain. Or maybe we're twins? Or maybe we are just riding the same aural wavelength...Or maybe...Or maybe...I'll just shut up now. Ahem....I'm still in that mood.
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