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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 07-30-2007, 07:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Christian "support" for Israel
I think this video adequately uncovers the true nature behind the American and Christian "support" for Israel. It hasn't really anything to do with peace or support of the Jewish people, but actually the direct opposite. And the thing is, many conservative Israelis aren't aware they're being used as puppets to instill American hegemony. The majority of Jewish people in the United States do see this, however,, and organizations are popping up of the likes of "Jews against Zionism". Which I think is fantastic.

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Old 07-31-2007, 04:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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oh wow... i'm totally flabbergasted.. how can one possibly react to this??
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I think this video adequately uncovers the true nature behind the American and Christian "support" for Israel.
Personally, I find this video to be disturbing...and just as much as I find Ahmadinejad's desire to usher in some sort of apocalypse to be disturbing.

But, I think it is a rather broad paintbrush that you are using to imply that US foreign policy regarding Israel is based on this idea and that these people represent all American Christians.

(Besides, there are many different interpretations of the supposed end of times in Christianity. And these people have evidently adopted just one particular interpretation.)

Perhaps we could find some deserted island in the south Pacific whereby these people and Ahmadinejad's ilk could fight each other and leave the peace loving citizens of this world alone.
Old 07-31-2007, 09:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
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It goes to show how incredibly STUPID some people can be!!
Old 07-31-2007, 02:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks for sharing Kat.

Growing up with Jewish family I have always felt that Christian America couldn't give a flying fuck about Jewish people.... EXCEPT making sure they are where they need to be for the rapture to occur.

The folks on the video are just another example of how religion is an assault to reality. The people speaking in the video display near insanity.
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Thanks for sharing Kat.

Growing up with Jewish family I have always felt that Christian America couldn't give a flying fuck about Jewish people.... EXCEPT making sure they are where they need to be for the rapture to occur.

The folks on the video are just another example of how religion is an assault to reality. The people speaking in the video display near insanity.
Did you also notice that many of the people interviewed on the video seemed incredibly stupid?
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Did you also notice that many of the people interviewed on the video seemed incredibly stupid?
Yes, and some of them unfortunately incredibly powerful (or influential anyway).
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Old 08-13-2007, 10:02 AM   #8 (permalink)
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this is good to know-that the jewish has people that dont hate them
this is good to know-that the jewish has people that dont hate them.
and i saw to many hate on the nate-for the jewish people.
but i also hate war and blood-and i hoop we will have the chance for see good day and i dont have any will to see dead people-and not more war-every killing is not justifed.
and i tell that after i and my friend were rasking our life to save other-i was at the army at intensive care ambulance.
may god bring peace on earth and no more any blood that will spand for stupid cause-because we were more hating then look the way for peace.
and yes i am afraid from the near future.
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I've always thought some use "support" for Israel as a good excuse to hate Arabs and Muslims. Whether they actually give a crap about Israel and Jews.. who knows?
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"The folks on the video are just another example of how religion is an assault to reality. The people speaking in the video display near insanity."

Hev. I'm a religious person. And though eccentric, probably the sanest person you could hope to meet.
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