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08-01-2007, 05:49 PM
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Points: 50,402, Level: 100 | Level up: 2%, 0 Points needed | | Does Race Matter? Some talk has been given to Obama being the first black candidate who actually has a chance to win. Surprisingly, it has not been a major subject, which I see as being a positive sign.
So I ask this... Does race matter? |
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08-01-2007, 06:02 PM
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Points: 31,657, Level: 100 | Level up: 2%, 0 Points needed | | I think it does make a difference ... I think that Obama is not getting the reaction other black men might get in his position because he's such a LIGHT black man.
If Obama were a dark skinned black man, I don't think the reception would be the same.
I don't think it's right - but I do think it's there.
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08-01-2007, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tristanrobin I think it does make a difference ... I think that Obama is not getting the reaction other black men might get in his position because he's such a LIGHT black man.
If Obama were a dark skinned black man, I don't think the reception would be the same.
I don't think it's right - but I do think it's there. | Conversely, if he was a white guy would he even be running??
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08-01-2007, 06:39 PM
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In this case I really hope I am wrong! I think he is a smart man and would make a great president.
He has been the only one to show support for Instant Runoff Voting I believe!
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Level up: 45%, 54 Points needed | | I do not believe how dark Obama is is ,or should be an issue. Tristan's response shows that there is still part of America's populace that fears the Black. Being Black myself, I personally am happy that Obama has taken the oppotunity to even run. Having said that, Obama's recent statement that he, if elected, would pull American troops from Iraq, and possibly send them into Pakistan really was not smart. But that was not "Black" talking, that was "inexperience" and lack of knowledge of the politics in the Middle East. |
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08-01-2007, 08:15 PM
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Points: 31,657, Level: 100 | Level up: 2%, 0 Points needed | | a) I agree - there is a part of America's populace that fears black men.
b) I do believe that dark vs. light-skinned black skin makes a difference to many (LOL - I'm not one of them)
c) I don't think anybody thought his comment about invading Pakistan had to do with his being black.
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08-01-2007, 10:12 PM
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To the racist element that will always exist in this society?- Yes.
Light-skinned Blacks vs dark-skinned Blacks?
Hmm, that's a new take on the subject... Never really paid much attention to that one...
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08-02-2007, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by tristanrobin a) I agree - there is a part of America's populace that fears black men.
b) I do believe that dark vs. light-skinned black skin makes a difference to many (LOL - I'm not one of them)
c) I don't think anybody thought his comment about invading Pakistan had to do with his being black. | I surely hope not. Like I said, I just don't think it was a smart thing to say. It has already started the political "panicking" in my area. The local telivision news is pumping this as though somebody had just found a cure for cancer. |
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08-02-2007, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by nuttyjoe I do not believe how dark Obama is is ,or should be an issue. Tristan's response shows that there is still part of America's populace that fears the Black. Being Black myself, I personally am happy that Obama has taken the oppotunity to even run. Having said that, Obama's recent statement that he, if elected, would pull American troops from Iraq, and possibly send them into Pakistan really was not smart. But that was not "Black" talking, that was "inexperience" and lack of knowledge of the politics in the Middle East. | Gee Whizz Joe, you and I may have different viewpoints,
but your comment is right on the money,and I am proud
that Obama is high on the polls. I hear negative things
everyday concerning Obama becoming a President or a
Vice Pres, and the comments is from people like Tristan.
I would trust Obama before I trust Jesse Jackson, and as a
true fact Senator Obama is the first Black brother who is in
the high ranks of politicians. |
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08-02-2007, 09:50 AM
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shoot the messenger
I didn't say I AGREED with it - merely that such an opinion exists
I'm PRO-Obama
geeeeeeesh
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