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Old 09-12-2007, 01:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Trial averted over human life beginning
These judges recognized that the beginning of life is a philosophical question, not a scientific one.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070912/...QfMK1SDhCs0NUE

"NEWARK, N.J. - A doctor has no duty to tell a woman considering an abortion that her embryo is an "existing human being," a unanimous New Jersey Supreme Court ruled Wednesday, averting a trial over when human life begins.

The decision, citing past rulings, said the court "will not place a duty on doctors when there is no consensus in the medical community or among the public" on when life begins.

The 5-0 Supreme Court ruling reversed a unanimous ruling by a three-judge appeals panel.

"On the profound issue of when life begins, this court cannot drive public policy in one particular direction by the engine of the common law when the opposing sides, which represent so many of our citizens, are arrayed along a deep societal and philosophical divide," Justice Barry T. Albin wrote for the court."
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thanks for that info, grannie!!!
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These judges recognized that the beginning of life is a philosophical question, not a scientific one.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070912/...QfMK1SDhCs0NUE

"NEWARK, N.J. - A doctor has no duty to tell a woman considering an abortion that her embryo is an "existing human being," a unanimous New Jersey Supreme Court ruled Wednesday, averting a trial over when human life begins.
When are the anti choice idiots going to give up? You can't legislate science!
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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These judges recognized that the beginning of life is a philosophical question, not a scientific one.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070912/...QfMK1SDhCs0NUE

"NEWARK, N.J. - A doctor has no duty to tell a woman considering an abortion that her embryo is an "existing human being," a unanimous New Jersey Supreme Court ruled Wednesday, averting a trial over when human life begins.

The decision, citing past rulings, said the court "will not place a duty on doctors when there is no consensus in the medical community or among the public" on when life begins.

The 5-0 Supreme Court ruling reversed a unanimous ruling by a three-judge appeals panel.

"On the profound issue of when life begins, this court cannot drive public policy in one particular direction by the engine of the common law when the opposing sides, which represent so many of our citizens, are arrayed along a deep societal and philosophical divide," Justice Barry T. Albin wrote for the court."
Who ARE these idiots that don't know what a pregnancy means? is it "there yet"? where would it be? flying in the air over her roof until next tuesday?
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What's funny is that the ruling before that was was also unanimous. What is the difference in interpretation of "life" that one court understands but the other one does.

Here are the true circumstances of the lawsuit though.

According to Acuna, Turkish told her that she 'needed an abortion because (y)our kidneys are messing you up,'" court papers said. "Acuna asked Turkish whether 'the baby was already there.' According to Acuna, Turkish replied, 'Don't be stupid, it's only blood.'"
Acuna signed a consent form, and Turkish did the abortion. Bleeding continued, however, and seven weeks later Acuna went to a hospital. She was diagnosed with an incomplete abortion and had another procedure.


The doctor was a hack. This decision actually does a disservice to the lady.
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When are the anti choice idiots going to give up? You can't legislate science!

Science agrees that human life begins at conception. What the pro-abortionists argue is that it is not a person until it is born....or after the first tri-mester.....or once its viable....or (fill in the blank).
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When are the anti choice idiots going to give up? You can't legislate science!

Science agrees that human life begins at conception. What the pro-abortionists argue is that it is not a person until it is born....or after the first tri-mester.....or once its viable....or (fill in the blank).
Exactly.

When will the pro-abortionists stop trying to delude them selves with all these excuses for killing babies?

They certainly don't fool us.
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When are the anti choice idiots going to give up? You can't legislate science!

Science agrees that human life begins at conception. What the pro-abortionists argue is that it is not a person until it is born....or after the first tri-mester.....or once its viable....or (fill in the blank).
ROFLMAO!!!

Care to back that up with fact?
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Science agrees that human life begins at conception.
Really?

So, when does the human life of an identical twin begin?

Evidently, it can't be at fertilization...since an identical twin doesn't exist at fertilization.


("Conception" really isn't an accurate nor a medical/biological term. A better term to use in this discussion is "fertilization.")
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When are the anti choice idiots going to give up? You can't legislate science!

Science agrees that human life begins at conception. What the pro-abortionists argue is that it is not a person until it is born....or after the first tri-mester.....or once its viable....or (fill in the blank).
Science agrees that conception is only a continuation of human life, since eggs and sperm are human and alive, their joining does not create NEW life, but merely changes the old life. So why don't you weep for every egg and sperm that doesn't continue life?
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