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Old 09-18-2007, 06:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs up New Preamble to Constitution!

Received in an e-mail from a friend:

NEW PREAMBLE TO THE CONSTITUTION



This is probably the best e-mail I've seen in a long, long time. The following has been attributed to State Representative Mitchell Kaye from GA. This guy should run for President one day...



"We the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help everyone get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid more riots, keep our nation safe, promote positive behavior, and secure the blessings of debt-free liberty to ourselves and our great-great-great-grandchildren, hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some common sense guidelines for the terminally whiny, guilt ridden, delusional, and other bed-wetters. We hold these truths to be self evident: that a whole lot of people are confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim they require a Bill of NON-Rights."



ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV, or any other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but no one is guaranteeing anything.



ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone -- not just you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc.; but the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.



ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful; do not expect the tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently wealthy.



ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of professional couch potatoes . (This one is my pet peeve...get an education and go to work....don't expect everyone else to take care of you!)



ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care. That would be nice, but from the looks of public housing, we're just not interested in public health care.



ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm other people. If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone, don't be surprised if the rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair.



ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions of others. If you rob, cheat, or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens, don't be surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place where you still won't have the right to a big screen color TV or a life of leisure.



ARTICLE VIII: You do not have the right to a job. All of us sure want you to have a job, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we expect you to take advantage of the opportunities of education and vocational training laid before you to make yourself useful. (AMEN!)



ARTICLE IX: You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American means that you have the right to PURSUE happiness, which by the way, is a lot easier if you are unencumbered by an over abundance of idiotic laws created by those of you who were confused by the Bill of Rights.



ARTICLE X: This is an English speaking country. We don't care where you are from, English is our language. Learn it or go back to wherever you came from! (Lastly....)



ARTICLE XI: You do not have the right to change our country's history or heritage. This country was founded on the belief in one true God. And yet, you are given the freedom to believe in any religion, any faith, or no faith at all; with no fear of persecution. The phrase IN GOD WE TRUST is part of our heritage and history, and if you are uncomfortable with it, TOUGH!





If you agree, share this with a friend. No, you don't have to, and nothing tragic will befall you if you don't. I just think it's about time common sense is allowed to flourish. Sensible people of the United States speak out because if you do not, who will?
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Old 09-18-2007, 06:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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That was a waste of time...
I would be surprised if any state representive would be willing to claim this piece of garbage as their own.
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Old 09-18-2007, 06:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I know this wasn't really supposed to be a real endorsement to change the Constitution, but I think is just goes to show the historical and legal revisionism that is characteristic of most on the right.

I wouldn't reply to this (because I think it's just retarded and not deserving of attention) if it weren't for "Article XI". Which is stated as the following:

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ARTICLE XI: You do not have the right to change our country's history or heritage. This country was founded on the belief in one true God. And yet, you are given the freedom to believe in any religion, any faith, or no faith at all; with no fear of persecution. The phrase IN GOD WE TRUST is part of our heritage and history, and if you are uncomfortable with it, TOUGH!
I felt like pointing this out, because out of all the retardation of all the other articles, I think this one represents the most obvious of revisionism.

Not only is it in direct contradiction to both the private and public sentiments of our founders (most of which were Deists anyway):

"The United States is in no sense founded upon the Christian doctrine."
-George Washington

And of course, more pertinent to this thread, a quote from the 'author of the Constitution' James Madison:

"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and severity in the laity; in both superstition, bigotry, and persecution."

And of course, who could forget:

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."
Thomas Jefferson

The mock article is also in direct contradiction to the establishment clause of the First Amendment of the real constitution. And it's also in sentimental contradiction to the "no religious test" clause of the real Article VI, section 3 which states that ."..no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

It is also a willful ignorance of the real history behind the phrase "in God we trust". The article proclaims that this phrase is a part of our heritage and history, when in actuality the actual phrase 'in God we Trust' really didn't receive gravity until later in our history; especially during the red scare (communists were atheist).

"In God we Trust" wasn't established as our national motto until 1956.
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Old 09-18-2007, 06:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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That was a waste of time...
I would be surprised if any state representive would be willing to claim this piece of garbage as their own.
Allright, Hev, you win.

How Kaye's name got attached to this, no one knows. It was actually written by Lewis Napper, a Libertarian writer and former US Senate candidate. . .

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Old 09-18-2007, 07:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I know this wasn't really supposed to be a real endorsement to change the Constitution, but I think is just goes to show the historical and legal revisionism that is characteristic of most on the right.

I wouldn't reply to this (because I think it's just retarded and not deserving of attention) if it weren't for "Article XI". Which is stated as the following:



I felt like pointing this out, because out of all the retardation of all the other articles, I think this one represents the most obvious of revisionism.

Not only is it in direct contradiction to both the private and public sentiments of our founders (most of which were Deists anyway):

"The United States is in no sense founded upon the Christian doctrine."
-George Washington

And of course, more pertinent to this thread, a quote from the 'author of the Constitution' James Madison:

"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and severity in the laity; in both superstition, bigotry, and persecution."

And of course, who could forget:

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."
Thomas Jefferson

The mock article is also in direct contradiction to the establishment clause of the First Amendment of the real constitution. And it's also in sentimental contradiction to the "no religious test" clause of the real Article VI, section 3 which states that ."..no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

It is also a willful ignorance of the real history behind the phrase "in God we trust". The article proclaims that this phrase is a part of our heritage and history, when in actuality the actual phrase 'in God we Trust' really didn't receive gravity until later in our history; especially during the red scare (communists were atheist).

"In God we Trust" wasn't established as our national motto until 1956.
Kat - you win too. You are absolutely right when you say that our founding fathers were deists. . . As someone who has studied History extensively, I should have known better!

You liberal pseudo-intellectuals are beginning to tick me off. . .
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Ok, then I apologize for being a moron. I didn't realize who actually wrote that article when I originally posted it. I had to google around after you questioned that. . .

Anyway, I was a dumbass, and I apologize.

Feel free to close and/or delete the thread.

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"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and severity in the laity; in both superstition, bigotry, and persecution."

Wow. I couldn't agree more with Madison.
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Ok, then I apologize for being a moron. I didn't realize who actually wrote that article when I originally posted it. I had to google around after you questioned that. . .

Anyway, I was a dumbass, and I apologize.

Feel free to close and/or delete the thread.

Better now?

Don't feel like a dumbass, it's all good. Just realize this kind of sentiment is complete rubbish. Then I would feel better.
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Don't feel like a dumbass, it's all good. Just realize this kind of sentiment is complete rubbish. Then I would feel better.
You are absolutely right (as usual)!

Anyhow, have a good night.

(I think I'll go crawl into a hole now. . .)
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